Excerpt: "This type of evidence reporting may be disturbing to some, not because of the evidence itself so much as because of its implications. After all, this evidence isn't on what we consider to be some distant remote planet like Mars but on the Moon close to us hanging right over our heads every night. A place that we consider as ours and to be dead and without active current life. If you have strong feelings in this regard, perhaps you should consider not getting into this report and its evidence because this may burst a bubble.
With that said, the above first image, as are all the rest here, is taken directly from the 1994 Navy Clementine military official science data and shown above at standard official resolution demonstrating two massive left and right towering objects in the terrain. Although blur and smudge tampering applications have completely covered up these objects so that no specific details of their true structure can actually be directly seen, that doesn't mean that there isn't plenty here to interpret and learn from."
Excerpt: "As you can see in the above first image, this is probably the most massive tall towering object visible in and drawn from the official military Clementine science data even in comparison by a slight margin to those presented in my previous report #067 titled "Moon Tower Evidence." As with those in the previous report #067, it is a colossal object that dwarfs and dominates everything else in the nearby terrain many times over.
The many smaller scale smooth blotchy areas scattered all around in this scene's terrain are digital blur and smudge image tampering applications done at differing resolution levels."
Excerpt: "With all that said, following is some of the most obvious evidence of image tampering and incompetence in doing it in the Moon science data for anyone to see. It may be old hat for some but an eye opener for many others that may be inclined to not believe that such consistent manipulation patterns could really exist in the data well beyond the scope of mere incompetence. As for you in the secrecy crowd, rest easy as this is all just part of the process of awakening to truth and starting to deal with it."
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Re: J.P. Skipper: Moon Anomalies « Reply #1 on Dec 2, 2008, 8:14pm »
Sorry, ZX. I don't buy this.
Notice the low angle of illumination from the bottom right of the image (arrow below) - that should cast a shadow well outside of the blurred area if that were a tower:
The picture is clearly a mosaic of raw image strips - you can see seams running in various (roughly up and down) directions in the pictures. I think the blurred areas are actually gaps with no data. They're especially evident in the foreground of the wide-field image (first one you posted)
Why did they choose to interpolate color into the gaps from the surrounding areas? I presume they thought it would be easier on the eyes. You sometimes see this on HDTV broadcasts in 16:9 where they have to switch to a 4:3 source - they put blurred extrapolated imagery to fill out the image on either side. They should have left it blank or grey, IMO.
Notice the low angle of illumination from the bottom right of the image (arrow below) - that should cast a shadow well outside of the blurred area if that were a tower
... a tower made from opaque materials that we are familiar with and not employing any technology that we are not familiar with.
Before stealth technology became common knowledge, an aircraft "should always produce a reflection" on a radar screen.
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Re: J.P. Skipper: Moon Anomalies « Reply #4 on Dec 3, 2008, 12:37am »
One of these 'tower' anomalies was on the near side of the moon, I checked for it on an image produced by an earth-based telescope found at the living moon site:
The tower was not there. In the anomaly image, the tower blocked some craters, but in the moon image you can obtain above, the tower is missing and the craters behind it are clearly visible. These tower anomalies are likely image processing artifacts.
I brought this evidence to the attention of mr. Skipper, but he dismissed it.
Notice the low angle of illumination from the bottom right of the image (arrow below) - that should cast a shadow well outside of the blurred area if that were a tower
... a tower made from opaque materials that we are familiar with and not employing any technology that we are not familiar with.
Before stealth technology became common knowledge, an aircraft "should always produce a reflection" on a radar screen.
If there is a tower reflecting sunlight such that it can be seen in an image, then that light is no longer passing thru the space occupied by the object. The result must be a shadow. Even a pane of glass casts a shadow proportional to it's lack of perfect transmission of light (i.e., opacity).
All aircraft and all airborne objects, stealth or not, will leave a "radar shadow" on the opposite side from the emitter (radar source).
Beer-Bourguer-Lambert Law states that the sum of radiative energy that an object absorbs, scatters (reflects) and transmits must add up to 100% of the incoming energy. The exception would be if the object is an energy source itself in precisely the same wavelengths. It is quite a stretch that an object would be constructed to be visible yet perfectly illuminate so as to offset its own shadow.
There is not sufficient evidence here for a "tower" conclusion, IMO. Occam's Razor is orders of magnitude more likely in this case.
If there is a tower reflecting sunlight such that it can be seen in an image, then that light is no longer passing thru the space occupied by the object. The result must be a shadow.
... provided it is made from materials we are familiar with and does not employ technology we are not familiar with.
Re: J.P. Skipper: Moon Anomalies « Reply #8 on Dec 7, 2008, 11:28pm »
He's got some good images on his site, but I really don't care for the attitude he has. He also loves taking credit for stuff he didn't find himself. The tower images are one example of that. I'm pretty sure those images have been around for a while now. He slaps the border and arrows on stuff and calls it his own. He has a very arrogant "I'm right and you're wrong" attitude. He proves this by not even coming here to explain his position, but addresses it on his site instead because he wants hits to his site and sees no point in arguing his position because in his mind he's right and there's nothing anyone can do to prove him wrong
Another example of how he likes taking credit for stuff. Look at some of the reports he's done where he says the images were brought to his attention from someone who e-mailed them to him. He'll always mention something like "oh I've known about this for a while before being e-mailed about it". Really? How come he says "these were brought to my attention" like it's completely new to him and then has the nerve to say he's known about it for a while now in the same report?
Some people on ATS have shown how he crops images to make things appear to look like something else. This happened a few months ago and I noticed he put that little disclaimer on his front page. "Remember that all visual evidence at this site is drawn from, verifiable in, and supported by the official science data. BLAH BLAH". To me that was an obvious response to what was being said about him on ATS at the time.
I liked the site when I first found it, but after I started reading more of his reports I noticed the arrogant attitude and how he liked taking credit for what others were finding and I have no respect for people like that. Then I started noticing people on ATS sharing that same opinion of him and saw I wasn't the only one. I have no respect for the guy at all.
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Re: J.P. Skipper: Moon Anomalies « Reply #9 on Dec 8, 2008, 1:57am »
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Kindly let's refrain from launching personal attacks and turning this thread into a nightmare.
I stared this thread for the sole purpose of discussing the potential existence of photographic evidence of extraordinary structures on the moon.
Other researchers may have discovered these photographs previously but as far as I know, Marsanamoly.com is the only site that has provided such detailed analysis. If you are aware of other sites which have done this type of work, by all means, please bring it to our attention.
I respectfully ask that we keep this discussion civil and avoid delving into the personal issues regarding the researchers.
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Re: J.P. Skipper: Moon Anomalies « Reply #10 on Dec 8, 2008, 2:07am »
I think Skipper makes some excellent points and I don't care if he doesn't want to post them here. A forum is the worst place to post stuff like this anyway.
I don't quiet buy it in this case. He argues that alien technology may be advanced enough to absorb or bend light and prevent viewing of the structures from earth. For such a technology to work, it would have to actually project what is behind the structure from every angle so that viewers from anywhere on earth would see the objects directly behind (such as craters) from any viewing angle on earth. Given that some of these are miles high, that would be some impressive technology indeed.
With the assumption of such technology, it isn't a big step to suggest they would also be able to fool our primitive satellites.
Re: J.P. Skipper: Moon Anomalies « Reply #12 on Dec 9, 2008, 4:36pm »
What you all really need to be questioning is why after 40 years of photographing the moon the quality of the images are regressing. I think what is most frustrating is why people ignore the obvious and focus on the obscure. Lets insert a little logic. The moon has a very thin atmosphere and 1/3 the gravity of earth. We are able to orbit the moon at 150 miles as opposed to 300 miles from earth. Using cameras and imaging technology far beyond what was being used in the 60s, the images should be crystal clear and showing incredible detail. Especially with no cloud cover... Sorry just doesn't add up. I can get better quality images of Earth from Google Earth with technology that is as good if not less than what they are sending to the moon. Has anyone noticed how good the first Apollo images of the moon are, and then compared them to the trash they are spoon feeding us now? They are hiding something, logic dictates it. Plus if they took the time to obscure these massive structures on the moon why wouldn't they hide the shadows, if there were any shadows to begin with...
Re: J.P. Skipper: Moon Anomalies « Reply #13 on Dec 9, 2008, 4:47pm »
Tell you all what. Take a look at the South Polar Ring Anomaly and tell me what in the heck that is. That is if you can find good images now. I have downloaded all the evidence early on and looked at them extensively. All I have to say is it is friggin weird. There were good images of this thing, now they are all blurred. More obvious tampering by our "trusted" organizations... http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2004/079/south-pole-ring.htm
What you all really need to be questioning is why after 40 years of photographing the moon the quality of the images are regressing. I think what is most frustrating is why people ignore the obvious and focus on the obscure. Lets insert a little logic. The moon has a very thin atmosphere and 1/3 the gravity of earth. We are able to orbit the moon at 150 miles as opposed to 300 miles from earth. Using cameras and imaging technology far beyond what was being used in the 60s, the images should be crystal clear and showing incredible detail. Especially with no cloud cover...
Forget the satellites. I want to know how a 10 inch Earth based telescope that you can buy for 8-15 thousand dollars produces better detailed images than the multi-million dollar satellites!
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