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« Reply #165 on Mar 5, 2008, 4:57am » | |
Quote:Forgive my skepticism about the strobing/choppiness/flipbook effect, but I had to experiment to convince myself.
I shot this video not 20 minutes ago (around 2215 CST) with a JVC GR-D770U 34x Optical Zoom, handheld, with Canis Major aka Sirius centered in the viewfinder. I believe you'll agree the results are consistent with the Caron video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS-1zYduwfQ
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Consistent as expected. But seems like Caron's subject could have been a brighter object (if you still had some zoom left)
Problem is that video mode results in a lot of lost detail, so people start looking at meanings in the trails rather than trying to identify the object itself. This possibility of trails as "symbols" is reinforced by claims that the naked eye also saw the same trails. No wonder people are confused.
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« Reply #166 on Mar 5, 2008, 5:09am » | |
Yes, I had plenty of zoom left, but it was quite chilly out and getting late. I'll try again tomorrow night to see if the color banding is also present.
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« Reply #167 on Mar 5, 2008, 5:10am » | |
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Forgive my skepticism about the strobing/choppiness/flipbook effect, but I had to experiment to convince myself.
I shot this video not 20 minutes ago (around 2215 CST) with a JVC GR-D770U 34x Optical Zoom, handheld, with Canis Major aka Sirius centered in the viewfinder. I believe you'll agree the results are consistent with the Caron video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS-1zYduwfQ
Edit to add: This was recorded in Night Alive mode, and hand held. |
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Well I'll be...
There you have it. Hard to dispute this IMHO.
Great job rising to the challenge on this. Hmmm. Wow.
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« Reply #168 on Mar 5, 2008, 5:15am » | |
Great job Sparky, that's exactly it!
I can stop fiddling around now!
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Forgive my skepticism about the strobing/choppiness/flipbook effect, but I had to experiment to convince myself.
I shot this video not 20 minutes ago (around 2215 CST) with a JVC GR-D770U 34x Optical Zoom, handheld, with Canis Major aka Sirius centered in the viewfinder. I believe you'll agree the results are consistent with the Caron video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS-1zYduwfQ
Edit to add: This was recorded in Night Alive mode, and hand held. |
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Well I'll be...
There you have it. Hard to dispute this IMHO.
Great job rising to the challenge on this. Hmmm. Wow. |
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« Reply #171 on Mar 5, 2008, 5:34am » | |
Quote:| I don't see a lot of consistency. |
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He's playing around with the zoom. The image on the right is way out of focus. That's the biggest reason for the inconsistency.
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« Reply #172 on Mar 5, 2008, 5:39am » | |
![[image]](http://llnw.image.cbslocal.com/175x131/lights_5.jpg) ![[image]](http://www.lightsovertexas.com/v2/files/Caron_Clone.jpg)
I do see quite a bit of similarity and consistency.
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« Reply #173 on Mar 5, 2008, 6:04am » | |
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So you are accusing Caron and Gaitan of filming Sirius and trying to pass it off as a UFO light show?
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« Reply #174 on Mar 5, 2008, 6:16am » | |
I don't think this is a matter of accusing anybody, but correctly identifying an object and get down to the facts. I don't believe that the people who filmed this intentionally planned a hoax or anything of that sort. If we only had Gaitan's video to look at....maybe somebody leaks that tomorrow! One can only hope  .
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« Reply #175 on Mar 5, 2008, 6:17am » | |
Quote:| So you are accusing Caron and Gaitan of filming Sirius and trying to pass it off as a UFO light show? |
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No. Definitely not accusing at all. 
It is, however quite possible that at least in Caron's case, Canis Major was misidentified as a UFO. That star has been reported many many times in the past because it is so bright. When it is low to the horizon, it shimmers with many bright colors.
These folks sure saw something earlier this year. With all the media attention people certainly started looking up much more often. It is inherently possible that people will start to recognize things in the sky that they may have never paid any attention to.
I am quite sure that Caron and Gaitan are very intelligent, well intentioned folks. Caron's video is the one being dissected right now and it seems very plausible that the images on his video were caused by the Night Alive mode.
There are no accusations here.
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« Reply #176 on Mar 5, 2008, 6:29am » | |
You can't have it both ways. You have come to the conclusion that Caron's video is of a star in the night sky. So you are saying he's either a hoaxer or a dope. Which is it?
This is just like the Larry King show with McGayhey accusing the sargeant of not knowing what he saw but the sargeant was adamant that he touched the object and could not have been mistaken. Larry asked the McGayhey if he was calling the sargeant a liar or an idiot.
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« Reply #177 on Mar 5, 2008, 6:35am » | |
I am leaning toward the conclusion that this may be a star that was videotaped.
I am calling no one a hoaxer or a dope.
Why are you being so aggressive and attacking me like this?
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« Reply #178 on Mar 5, 2008, 6:41am » | |
Quote:I am leaning toward the conclusion that this may be a star that was videotaped.
I am calling no one a hoaxer or a dope.
Why are you being so aggressive and attacking me like this? |
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So this is attacking? No, only getting clarification. Besides you already got ATS conviced Caron is a hoaxer.
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« Reply #179 on Mar 5, 2008, 6:47am » | |
Well then, let me clarify. I believe there is a strong chance that Caron may have misidentified a star as a UFO. Sparky provided video evidence that strongly supports that.
Yes, I posted the thread about the video leak on ATS. I gathered as much information as I could about the subject and others did the same. After posting a link to Sparky's video, I stated that the evidence appeared pretty conclusive barring any strong counterpoints.
Never once did I suggest Caron was a hoaxer. On the contrary I stated very clearly:
"I sincerely hope they do not lable this a hoax. This seems to be simply misidentification by the videographer coupled with unusual camera effects."
I also posted this final message:
"Of course there is always room for speculation.
People in Texas did see something between 1 Jan and 9 Feb (I think there were a couple more sightings after that). We still have constable Gaitan's photo, and the photo from Joan in Glen Rose on the 20th. Not to mention, there are the reports of "WalMart sized" UFOs floating around. Last but not least, there is the police dash cam that supposedly has some great "UFO" footage that has not made it to the MSM.
So, everyone must be their own judge here. I am coming to my own personal conclusions about the Coran tape. Still "investigating" the other reports. "
So, are we clear?
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