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« Reply #195 on Jul 3, 2007, 7:28pm »

Q: Does the frequency of occurence of characters in any way match English letter frequency? If "Yes" then this implies a cipher is being employed.

Here's the English frequency chart:

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I've lost all track of the symbol decoding - I guess Banzai has a better chance at being able to do this!

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Re: Think tank for Isaac document
« Reply #196 on Jul 3, 2007, 7:33pm »

The Isaac Font that Cage has created can be downloaded from

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Re: Think tank for Isaac document
« Reply #197 on Jul 3, 2007, 7:41pm »

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The Isaac Font that Cage has created can be downloaded from

http://openminds.exopaedia.org/isaac_fontt.zip

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Re: Think tank for Isaac document
« Reply #198 on Jul 3, 2007, 8:32pm »

I was wondering if anyone with large print outs of the main mechenism in the good photos of the issac artifact, if they compared the one that has the "activated" rails to the one that is stationary? To me they seem backwards from each other, I've been trying to distinguish what "activation" changes might be observable from the deactivated one.

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Re: Think tank for Isaac document
« Reply #199 on Jul 3, 2007, 9:02pm »

To any who care, you've probably done this already yourself. But...

I've made a high-res composite of the Isaac language map in photoshop and increased edge sharpness to maximize clarity. It's not perfect, but it is a nice reference. Or a pretty wallhanging if printed out.

Feel free to download a copy for yourself, it's found at:

http://www.goobertech.net/node/1635

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Re: Think tank for Isaac document
« Reply #200 on Jul 3, 2007, 9:07pm »

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Q: Does the frequency of occurence of characters in any way match English letter frequency? If "Yes" then this implies a cipher is being employed.

Here's the English frequency chart:

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I've lost all track of the symbol decoding - I guess Banzai has a better chance at being able to do this!

If we check the frequency of the Isaac symbols, we might get somewhere .. did anyone try this already?

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Re: Think tank for Isaac document
« Reply #201 on Jul 3, 2007, 9:16pm »

Well I gave a long look at the big artifact that isn't activated along side the one that shows the two rails being held up by "activation". I can't see much difference, if I do its that the vent area beneath the first ring shackle like object becomes shorter when activated. But it's hard to tell because of perspective. There are so many little details on that thing, so many little needles and nubs and ridges and things poking out.. I've tried to compare them all, maybe someone else can spot a difference.

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Re: Think tank for Isaac document
« Reply #202 on Jul 3, 2007, 9:18pm »

Here are the tri node arms:
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Interesting to note, the subjective match works if the code is read right to left, not left to right...

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Re: Think tank for Isaac document
« Reply #203 on Jul 3, 2007, 9:23pm »

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To any who care, you've probably done this already yourself. But...

I've made a high-res composite of the Isaac language map in photoshop

OK, thx, but once unzipped, how are we supposed to open the .step file ?

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Re: Think tank for Isaac document
« Reply #204 on Jul 3, 2007, 9:23pm »

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Q: Does the frequency of occurence of characters in any way match English letter frequency? If "Yes" then this implies a cipher is being employed.

Here's the English frequency chart:

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I've lost all track of the symbol decoding - I guess Banzai has a better chance at being able to do this!

If we check the frequency of the Isaac symbols, we might get somewhere .. did anyone try this already?

I suggested someone seek out "vowels" but I'm working on comparative analysis first.

I need patterns before I can work on specific values. If no one gets to it I will catalog the character frequency but there is much more to be done on the bigger picture and the specific objects for my own purposes.

once the patterns suggest functionality then there will be a context to substitute variable values in order to make specific characters work... at lest to my thinking.

But if someone wants to take that on at this point it would be very helpful.

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Re: Think tank for Isaac document
« Reply #205 on Jul 3, 2007, 9:26pm »

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To any who care, you've probably done this already yourself. But...

I've made a high-res composite of the Isaac language map in photoshop

OK, thx, but once unzipped, how are we supposed to open the .step file ?

There're 2 files for your entertainment. The STEP file is a 3D model of the "ship" that I made. Almost any modeling software can open that format. Click the other link (by the image in question) to download the large image.

Cheers

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Re: Think tank for Isaac document
« Reply #206 on Jul 3, 2007, 9:31pm »

@ OnTheFence
Hi,
now you've released the CARETsymbols_1.5..
i feel there's a logic to switch the last 2 symbols, bottom right...

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Re: Think tank for Isaac document
« Reply #207 on Jul 3, 2007, 10:02pm »

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If we check the frequency of the Isaac symbols, we might get somewhere .. did anyone try this already?

Well, I think anyone can help with that. I just downloaded a very hi res image of Isaac's Linguistic Analysis Primer.

I will get into it tomorrow (its 12:00 am here right now) and will try to catalog the frequency for you

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