Topic: Saladfinger's AMAZING CGI VIDEO *MUST* SEE!! (Read 6,098 times)
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Re: Saladfinger's AMAZING CGI VIDEO *MUST* SEE!! « Reply #120 on Oct 2, 2007, 10:30pm »
Yes, it was my fault. I used to phone a lot around may and june and my cell phone caused a lot of interruptions. My mother said, she could not understand one word and I asked her to close the kitchen door, because I didn't want to see her work all day long, while I was disturbing the drones.
I swear, I don't use my cell phone that much any more, and you must say, that I didn't disturb anything out there since month, did I?
Maybe some didn't like my postings here. But after all: I am human!
Promise now and here: I never will trouble the drones anymore and they never will appear again!
IMO, Salad did the right thing by creating his video. Sure, for some, this is all they need to confirm that the original DRONE story was all fabricated, but those folks were leaning that way anyway.
Remember the saying "Imitation is the finest form of flattery"? It's one thing to imitate or recreate the DRONES but quite another to have come up with it in the first place. I'm still amazed at how captivating the structure of the DRONES and ISAAC diagrams are - they are almost hypnotic.
Nothing I've seen in SciFi flicks - except perhaps the creature in Aliens comes - close to doing that for me. So hat's off to Salad for his excellent recreation but real kudos go to the original DRONE creator, whomever they may be!
Re: Saladfinger's AMAZING CGI VIDEO *MUST* SEE!! « Reply #131 on Oct 3, 2007, 2:11am »
I think its funny everyone is so quick to jump on Kris that he hoaxed the whole thing. Reminds me of the lackluster reporting LMH does.. no research into the facts before stating a claim...
honestly i think for entertainment value the drone story is great. its way above most of the stupid hollywood sci-fi stuff, and is within a realistic grasp 2001 space oddessy was.
this could just be the first self-realizing viral marketing... one that just builds upon itself until it becomes something. too bad Isaac hasnt released more or isnt fast enough/proficient enough to hoax more if he is the originator.
if i was a whistleblower i would be getting a bit annoyed at LMH for witholding evidence if indeed there is more, if anything the original raw data.
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Re: Saladfinger's AMAZING CGI VIDEO *MUST* SEE!! « Reply #132 on Oct 3, 2007, 2:36am »
Tomi, I understand your concern, and thanks for passing that on. In fact if anyone comes across any articles like that, could you post me a link so I can contact them and address their concerns please? Thanks.
Anyway, I have left the following comment on their site, hopefully it should help!
Kris >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
listen, you can take me straight OFF the hoaxers list...
If the drone case was hoaxed.. if (because it has yet to be proven) it was not me. Feelings about the possibility of what you imagine this case to be do not make it so. It is way more complicated than that. My video (to some) can only ever show that it is possible that the drones could be the result of CG, not that they are. There is much to be done before that is proven positive or negative.
I will also reply to the comment about how easy it was to create this video. It wasn't! It took a fair amount of time, and was not a walk in the park.
I'm very glad that the video has been enjoyed, and I am extremely flattered by some of the wonderful feedback! I never expected such a resounding response. But it was not created to debunk, and the wide majority of people who have seen it don't think so either. It is a dedication to some of the extremely talented and intelligent people who have put many many hours of study into this case. It is also a result of the artistic inspiration I have drawn from the unique imagery in the drones and the CARET documents. Ultimately, it was created to breathe life into objects we have only ever seen as flat 2D images, while bringing some entertainment and enjoyment along the way!
Whether real or not, there are some amazing visual aspects in the original presented evidence. I think the primer part of the video presents this inspiration to the fullest.
So please, don't dismiss the drone case outright because my work looks pretty close. It took a lot of work to get them as close as they are. A lot of studying of the images.
The answer to this case is personal to everyone, but no one has 'proved' anything. Merely provided possibilities, and there are so many of these to choose from. To dismiss this case on a feeling is to dismiss the search for the truth.
I have at times thrown my hands up in the air and said that this has got to be CG! But I haven't proved that. Has anyone? But it hasn't been proved to be real either. It is the unanswered questions that drive us mad, which is why it is so easy to throw the towel in and resign ourselves to our feelings. I am still wide open to this case being real, so please don't think I say it is a hoax, full stop, the end. It is over when it is proven one way or the other, not before. To say such is to belittle the hard work done by some very dedicated researchers. This I have learned along the way!
Final note. The special thanks to Linda Moulton Howe is for the kind lending of her voice to the amazing piece of music by 'Drone'. She is not related to the video in the sense of her involvement in any way. I have never spoken to her myself. But I take this opportunity to thank her again for sounding so cool on the track! It wouldn't be so good without her on there, and it gives the music a backbone that makes sense of the images.
Anyway, I hope this message clears a few things up. I refuse to be the debunkers champion, or any such nonsense. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I honestly hope everyone makes up their own mind, as opposed to being swayed by the flat conclusions of others.
That's it really. Maybe you could post this letter a little more prominently? As I don't really like being tagged with the hoaxer brush. I want to make it VERY CLEAR, that the original evidence has nothing to do with me.
Re: Saladfinger's AMAZING CGI VIDEO *MUST* SEE!! « Reply #133 on Oct 3, 2007, 9:16am »
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Tomi, I understand your concern, and thanks for passing that on. In fact if anyone comes across any articles like that, could you post me a link so I can contact them and address their concerns please? Thanks.
Anyway, I have left the following comment on their site, hopefully it should help!
Kris >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
listen, you can take me straight OFF the hoaxers list...
If the drone case was hoaxed.. if (because it has yet to be proven) it was not me. Feelings about the possibility of what you imagine this case to be do not make it so. It is way more complicated than that. My video (to some) can only ever show that it is possible that the drones could be the result of CG, not that they are. There is much to be done before that is proven positive or negative.
I will also reply to the comment about how easy it was to create this video. It wasn't! It took a fair amount of time, and was not a walk in the park.
I'm very glad that the video has been enjoyed, and I am extremely flattered by some of the wonderful feedback! I never expected such a resounding response. But it was not created to debunk, and the wide majority of people who have seen it don't think so either. It is a dedication to some of the extremely talented and intelligent people who have put many many hours of study into this case. It is also a result of the artistic inspiration I have drawn from the unique imagery in the drones and the CARET documents. Ultimately, it was created to breathe life into objects we have only ever seen as flat 2D images, while bringing some entertainment and enjoyment along the way!
Whether real or not, there are some amazing visual aspects in the original presented evidence. I think the primer part of the video presents this inspiration to the fullest.
So please, don't dismiss the drone case outright because my work looks pretty close. It took a lot of work to get them as close as they are. A lot of studying of the images.
The answer to this case is personal to everyone, but no one has 'proved' anything. Merely provided possibilities, and there are so many of these to choose from. To dismiss this case on a feeling is to dismiss the search for the truth.
I have at times thrown my hands up in the air and said that this has got to be CG! But I haven't proved that. Has anyone? But it hasn't been proved to be real either. It is the unanswered questions that drive us mad, which is why it is so easy to throw the towel in and resign ourselves to our feelings. I am still wide open to this case being real, so please don't think I say it is a hoax, full stop, the end. It is over when it is proven one way or the other, not before. To say such is to belittle the hard work done by some very dedicated researchers. This I have learned along the way!
Final note. The special thanks to Linda Moulton Howe is for the kind lending of her voice to the amazing piece of music by 'Drone'. She is not related to the video in the sense of her involvement in any way. I have never spoken to her myself. But I take this opportunity to thank her again for sounding so cool on the track! It wouldn't be so good without her on there, and it gives the music a backbone that makes sense of the images.
Anyway, I hope this message clears a few things up. I refuse to be the debunkers champion, or any such nonsense. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I honestly hope everyone makes up their own mind, as opposed to being swayed by the flat conclusions of others.
That's it really. Maybe you could post this letter a little more prominently? As I don't really like being tagged with the hoaxer brush. I want to make it VERY CLEAR, that the original evidence has nothing to do with me.
I'm sorry but there is NO EXCUSE for someone of Greg Bishops calibre to be so ignorant about the drone matter, any of them, except they don't care and it's too outside their box of normal UFO investigations to open their eyes and take a look.
Can you please invite Greg Bishop over here? Like those in Mufon, there needs to be authorative good for the drone matter to unfold from all of this, not just clarity that the matter is not a salad cgi hoax.
According to Avery, it’s all a hoax, though a very interesting one.
Perhaps we should help Kris deal with such superficial reports. I've posted the following comment (awaiting moderation):
Quote:
Let me quote Kris Avery, the author:“I have at times thrown my hands up in the air and said that this has got to be CG! But I haven’t proved that. Has anyone? But it hasn’t been proved to be real either. It is the unanswered questions that drive us mad, which is why it is so easy to throw the towel in and resign ourselves to our feelings. I am still wide open to this case being real, so please don’t think I say it is a hoax, full stop, the end.”
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