It seems they've taken the next step. There's no turning back now. Alienware is committed to using any and all of the Drone-Lap for it's marketing purposes. Good for them. Eventually the public will begin clamoring for answers. Any speculation where this will go? Next they will likely be putting images of Raj drones on things. This may end up being viral marketing after the fact. Smart move on their part.
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Re: New Alienware Laptop - CARET Language Engraved « Reply #2 on Nov 16, 2007, 5:31pm »
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This may end up being viral marketing after the fact. Smart move on their part.
They have the alien symbols embossed on their new laptops. Dell is not going to take info off the internet and use it on their merchandise unless it has belonged to them the whole time.
The drones surfaced this spring. Am I to believe that Dell (Alienware) were so impressed with the drone symbols that they created a new laptop just so they could use the symbols? And it went through development and research that fast. That dies were cut and created to make the embossed symbols on the new laptop. That they made sure that no one owned a copyright to the lap and symbols. All after the fact. I'm sorry but for lack of a better word....Paaaaalease! Viral marketing all along, yes, but not after the fact!
Re: New Alienware Laptop - CARET Language Engraved « Reply #3 on Nov 16, 2007, 5:34pm »
Maybe... It recently occurred to me that this could be a new form of viral marketing, where they don't ever admit to being the source, but they create a UFO story with neat symbols and the story spreads like wildfire through the UFO community. Then the community starts coming up with t-shirts and desktop wallpapers and such with the characters on them, because they like how the characters look, and then... "oh wow, now I can buy a hot new laptop with those characters on it... let me rush out and buy one of those". So Alienware never claims to be the source of the hoax - that would just tick us all off and they know it - but they will start putting the images on their stuff which we will want to buy just to be cool.
I don't necessarily believe this, but it's a possibility for sure.
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Re: New Alienware Laptop - CARET Language Engraved « Reply #4 on Nov 16, 2007, 5:38pm »
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Am I to believe that Dell (Alienware) were so impressed with the drone symbols that they created a new laptop just so they could use the symbols? And it went through development and research that fast. That dies were cut and created to make the embossed symbols on the new laptop. That they made sure that no one owned a copyright to the lap and symbols. All after the fact.
Yep! Believe it. They already said so. Six months is nothing for a company that has to stay on the cutting edge to stay afloat.
Edit to add: AW did not design the laptop for the LAP (hey I just realised a new marketing scheme for them, the LAP-top! ). They simply applied the symbols to what they had. That can be done from start to finish in a few weeks. I work for a similar outfit.
Re: New Alienware Laptop - CARET Language Engraved « Reply #5 on Nov 16, 2007, 5:42pm »
lets not forget that the game developers and artists work hand in hand with the manufacturers to exploit the dx10 cpu power etc to determine how much can go into a game. If you examine alienwares video for their machine and the game Crysis you will see what I mean. Thus that would explain any involvement of syd meade or associates in this affair from the beginning..and as a viral it would in this case be polymorphic to accommodate everyone dell, alienware, and someone like EA being able to dip in and take from the well at will..
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Re: New Alienware Laptop - CARET Language Engraved « Reply #6 on Nov 16, 2007, 6:02pm »
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Am I to believe that Dell (Alienware) were so impressed with the drone symbols that they created a new laptop just so they could use the symbols? And it went through development and research that fast. That dies were cut and created to make the embossed symbols on the new laptop. That they made sure that no one owned a copyright to the lap and symbols. All after the fact.
Yep! Believe it. They already said so. Six months is nothing for a company that has to stay on the cutting edge to stay afloat.
NEWSFLASH: Dell (alienware) is using the exact same symbols from the drones on their new laptops.
Witnesses are silenced but Dell can use alien symbols without fear?
Dell has successfully ran a viral marketing campaign that fooled alot of people. But the secret is to now not admit to it. The people they fooled will be the ones buying the laptops lol!
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Re: New Alienware Laptop - CARET Language Engraved « Reply #7 on Nov 16, 2007, 6:12pm »
Hi ________,
Thank you for your email. It’s great to hear that our promotion has reach out to you and your Forum group regarding the CARET document. Alienware did NOT create the information regarding this phenomena or the CARAT linguistics. This is NOT an intellectual property of Alienware. The information has anonymously spread throughout the web for some time. We have taken the CARAT linguistics and have applied this as a marketing tool to draw attention to our promotion.
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Re: New Alienware Laptop - CARET Language Engraved « Reply #8 on Nov 16, 2007, 6:13pm »
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Witnesses are silenced but Dell can use alien symbols without fear?
There is much to consider in this statement. Remember a few posts back I asked for speculation as to where this AW thing will lead? The Agency may be allowing this to happen (possibly even orchestrating it). It may end up being very bad for the drone case. The case may end up being swallowed entirely by viral marketing. It may not matter if it is before or after the fact. Viral marketing or Disinfo campaign?
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Re: New Alienware Laptop - CARET Language Engraved « Reply #9 on Nov 16, 2007, 6:25pm »
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Hi ________,
Thank you for your email. It’s great to hear that our promotion has reach out to you and your Forum group regarding the CARET document. Alienware did NOT create the information regarding this phenomena or the CARAT linguistics. This is NOT an intellectual property of Alienware. The information has anonymously spread throughout the web for some time. We have taken the CARAT linguistics and have applied this as a marketing tool to draw attention to our promotion.
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Perhaps the marketing company they hired created it! And retains rights to it! We don't expect them to admit to viral marketing that easily.
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Re: New Alienware Laptop - CARET Language Engraved « Reply #12 on Nov 16, 2007, 7:52pm »
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[ Perhaps the marketing company they hired created it! And retains rights to it! We don't expect them to admit to viral marketing that easily.
Of course they wouldnt admit it!! That would ruin the intrigue.......of course some die hard believers will still believe a company like dell is going to steal this stuff and use it...not a chance!! Would be bad for business.....not to mention they could simply have their staff put together a totally unique alien language to use and not worry about being sued.
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Re: New Alienware Laptop - CARET Language Engraved « Reply #14 on Nov 16, 2007, 7:57pm »
To suggest that the LAP language primer is a viral marketing scheme by a small subsidiary of Dell is akin to claiming that all classic oval-shaped UFOs are marketing ploys by Whamm-O for their Frisbee.
And if there was a marketing effort behind putting this out there by the company hired by Alienware to do their pre-distribution marketing, then this company has done a horrible job. The websites who carried any mention of this at all are small in the grand scheme of things. Trust me, this would have made the news and advertising would have been deployed to promote the launch.
You can't just conveniently ignore the statement received from Alienware regarding the fact that they copied it. That is a definitive statement. Marketing companies do not own the logos, trademarks, symbols, phrasing or any other tools used to define the product - the company producing the product does.
As to the quick turnaround time, no it is not that unusual for there to be this kind of time frame involved (six months). I have a friend and colleague who used to work for Dell and they frequently tried to go for even shorter time frames because of their desire to be sure that the marketing materials were fresh and relevant.
Also, the name chosen for the product, Area 51, has nothing to do with the LAP, Isaac, drones, Capitola, Lake Tahoe or anything else we have seen involved with the entire drone affair so far.
Now, this is of course just all IMHO, and does not mean that there couldn't be some other worldly source for all of the drone material, but this Alienware connection does not exist and is a dead end.
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