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Re: Disclosure: What's REALLY going on? « Reply #450 on May 6, 2007, 6:33pm »
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By the way what does the proposed (non) Messiah of disclosure look like? How will we know it is Him? Any plans on Dan coming down on a cloud from heaven? Maybe the ET's could help.
P.S. A beat up old Cadillac that rides like a cloud does not count!
Dan is a philosopher. His use of the term messiah referring to himself is metaphorical in nature.
I guess if I am happy that fore cannot "summon demons to do his bidding" then that would be a "success" and the Texas Sharpshooter fallacy is alive and well. --Traynor
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Re: Disclosure: What's REALLY going on? « Reply #452 on May 6, 2007, 7:52pm »
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By the way what does the proposed (non) Messiah of disclosure look like? How will we know it is Him? Any plans on Dan coming down on a cloud from heaven? Maybe the ET's could help.
P.S. A beat up old Cadillac that rides like a cloud does not count!
Dan is a philosopher. His use of the term messiah referring to himself is metaphorical in nature.
yes, metaphorical. but is there a little reservoir of perverse conviction there as well?
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Re: Disclosure: What's REALLY going on? « Reply #453 on May 6, 2007, 8:57pm »
Smokey, in talking at length with Dan Smith, concerning this issue. He believes that what we would call "Disclosure" is that time in which mankind comes face-to-face with the eschaton. The global ET awareness (Disclosure) is merely the door opener. Disclosure automatically brings into view the the true nature of the universe. Which then rapidly brings into collective focus our final destiny - oneness with G-d.
Dan Smith's the BPWH is the detailed description/explanation of this awakening, in which all things are past and all things become new. Dan believes everyone will eventually grasp the BPW Hypothesis. This within a generation, to perhaps a couple hundred years at most.
And so in Dan's view, the Disclosure period can be equated to the prophesied "second coming" - eschaton. And furthering that thought, the BPWH consequently reflects the "second coming".
Hope that helps.
As Dan is reading our forum . . . if I got it wrong, I'm sure to hear about it and I will correct any shortcomings.
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Re: Disclosure: What's REALLY going on? « Reply #454 on May 6, 2007, 10:18pm »
I wonder why he is reluctant to post here. Maybe he doesn't want to put up with certain people? Or is it a privacy issue?
I wonder how the second coming translates into a disclosure scenario. Is it the aliens who come or the truth that they bring. Or is the second coming a sort of revelation from a body of government?
The more I look the more that I'm confused as to how two texts clash together. Wouldn't people be disappointed if the role of the messiah never came about. What if instead we all found out that disclosure was just the revelation of old alien pals for a second time? This makes me wonder if our future is not a make or break scenario. Disclosure could break the camels back if it doesn't fulfill long standing religious beliefs.
I guess if I am happy that fore cannot "summon demons to do his bidding" then that would be a "success" and the Texas Sharpshooter fallacy is alive and well. --Traynor
Re: Disclosure: What's REALLY going on? « Reply #455 on May 7, 2007, 4:35am »
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Not sure if Dan would write or respond to anything here - i think he prefers all his stuff to remain over at his site.
Dan seems pretty confident that Russo will be on board with what's going down. and it's not going to be a BIG story - just another addition to the constant and growing stream of (hopefully not CJD infected) meat coming from the "sausage factory".
You will hear Dan talking about the Sausage Factory in the upcoming interview we did with him yesterday.
Essentially, Disclosure has begun. The frequency in signal is getting stronger as the days and weeks move on. These signals include the various sightings, govt disclosures and general collusion with the collective consciousness (public) regarding UFOs and other phenomena.
ET may decide to play its hand/tentacles(!) in whatever form it chooses, of course. So the landing on the Whitehouse lawn situation is not scuppered, - just less likely to happen as long as the PTB play ball and co-operate with the awakening collective.
It seems that all involved want a 'bloodless Revolution' and avoid the traumatic shock of a 'rude awakening'.
But it is predicted that there WILL be an increase in the signal frequency in general - so DO expect more isolated sightings, govt sharing of data, co-operation from the media etc,.
It is up to the collective (public) now, and how they react to these disclosures.
...or not and IMO!
I guess my main question in all of this is, who is saying all this info?
Who's saying disclosure has begun? Dan, or is Dan saying that RP told him that it has begun?
Who is predicting the signals will get "stronger"?
I guess I'm not sold on DS yet.
While I personally don't think disclosure is happening, I will recognize the fact that there has been an increase in the amount of UFO information being made public. Also, it seems like the Media has been more apt to follow a couple of stories, UFO related.
So if this is the start, I'll gladly eat my words.
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Re: Disclosure: What's REALLY going on? « Reply #457 on May 7, 2007, 5:58pm »
Uncle John here: I've been trying for years to get some messages back to those controlling disclosure. So here goes, Dan Smith (DS).
I agree with DS that disclosure is much more grand than disclosing the ET interaction with earth. One could look at it as Eschatology, but in reality, nothing that continually evolves ever reaches its ultimate destiny.
Perhaps mankind will wake up to this:
You memory and consciousness is located outside your brain in a mechanism which operates outside time and space and is located in an unknown time and space. This is much more than the Akashic records in that it is the actual memory and consciousness itself.
By control of this mechanism, individual minds can be signaled, controlled or virtualized. It is like the Matrix movies but it is reverse. In the Matrix movies, the mind is real and the scenes are virtual. In this mind mechanism, the scenes are real and the mind is virtual.
Those managing the ET situation need to understand that they are mind controlled by an ET collective, this ET collective is running the world and their plans are not in the best interest of humans or God.
Short of any other beings doing this, it seems that the destiny of humankind is to design and construct this mind mechanism. What could be greater than this? Ask not what God will do for you, ask God what you can do for God.
Sometimes I think that this whole universe is just a joke in order to get me riled up.
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Re: Disclosure: What's REALLY going on? « Reply #459 on May 7, 2007, 6:33pm »
Yes, welcome UncleJohn. I recall reading some of your posts on another forum and enjoyed many of your comments. But that Dan Burisch camp sure gave you a kicking for awhile.
Re: Disclosure: What's REALLY going on? « Reply #460 on May 7, 2007, 8:09pm »
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Sometimes I think that this whole universe is just a joke in order to get me riled up. "
Yes, I think that is indeed the punch-line.
Welcome Unclejohn.
This just in from Mike Jamieson in a response to the Pad at RU. If you don't know Mike, you ought to. He's an ufologist with his head screwed on.
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Hi Max. I think the show is going to be hitting the "big tent". Was looking at the upcoming conference site, by Salla, and it really looks like the introduction of some hybrid religious/political movement based on a "story" that there are some aliens here with a very advanced technology that can Save us. Plus, there's the reference to spiritual tools and the notion of some of the aliens as being advanced spiritual beings (often compared to "ascended masters" by some contactees endorsed by Salla).
Like all good stories, in his there exists vivid antagonists in the form of an evil, dark govt. cabal with ties to exploitive, untrustworthy aliens. Salla, for example, actually believes in the Dulce stories and others like them. Bennewitz wasn't crazy; he was just discredited, is all. (And, on and on.)
So, I think we have sorta a group creative writing, and Myth creation, project going on here. Problem is, everyone's gotta be the leading man: Boylan, Smith, Greer, and god knows who else. (I didn't mention Salla because he's not really in the self-proclaimed Messiah role.)
Besides, I think the question was settled a long time ago. Everyone knows that Michael Jackson is Earth's appointed representative to the assembled Star Nations visiting our solar system. And, that Tom Cruise serves a high ranking advisory function.
Re: Disclosure: What's REALLY going on? « Reply #461 on May 7, 2007, 8:58pm »
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Uncle John here: I've been trying for years to get some messages back to those controlling disclosure. So here goes, Dan Smith (DS).
I agree with DS that disclosure is much more grand than disclosing the ET interaction with earth. One could look at it as Eschatology, but in reality, nothing that continually evolves ever reaches its ultimate destiny.
Perhaps mankind will wake up to this:
You memory and consciousness is located outside your brain in a mechanism which operates outside time and space and is located in an unknown time and space. This is much more than the Akashic records in that it is the actual memory and consciousness itself.
By control of this mechanism, individual minds can be signaled, controlled or virtualized. It is like the Matrix movies but it is reverse. In the Matrix movies, the mind is real and the scenes are virtual. In this mind mechanism, the scenes are real and the mind is virtual.
Those managing the ET situation need to understand that they are mind controlled by an ET collective, this ET collective is running the world and their plans are not in the best interest of humans or God.
Short of any other beings doing this, it seems that the destiny of humankind is to design and construct this mind mechanism. What could be greater than this? Ask not what God will do for you, ask God what you can do for God.
Sometimes I think that this whole universe is just a joke in order to get me riled up.
If I'm not mistaken- Uncle John is a main poster on the Kate (Xenu) and Shawna forum, eaglesdisobey (or whatever its current incarnation might be) If that is the case then anything he posts here is suspect.
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Re: Disclosure: What's REALLY going on? « Reply #463 on May 7, 2007, 9:53pm »
From today's 'Dan's Blog' - we hear that Dan is wanting a new word instead of 'disclosure' - well, we need to be mindful of the 'search engines' - do we not. But if needs must, then maybe we should be talking about 'closure'.
I note that 'Miragemen' may be some time off - and although the rumour-mill rumbles on about GR , we perhaps do need a little more meat to come forth from the 'sausage factory'.
Today's - 'up close and personal UFO pictures come hot-on-the-heels of last week's ' 'Mile-wide' UFOs. Sure it's grist for the mill - but we want less gristle ( and even less v.CJD) and more meat in our sausages.
Will GR be in a position to serve up something special?
Judging by recent developments, we can surely expect some spice...
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