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« Reply #645 on Nov 9, 2007, 12:10am »

(cont.)

Allow me to paraphrase William Jennings:

We have been crucified on the Cross of Pi.

If I can break the Spell of Pi, then Jesus can climb right down off that cross, just like our good Muslim brothers say he did.

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« Reply #646 on Nov 9, 2007, 12:18am »

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My contention is that Pi is alleged to be infinitely more objective than any atom was ever thought to, pace de Broglie.

If I can break the objectivity of Pi, then atoms are a cinch, and then the sky will fall on our little heads…..or thus Sprache Chicken Little.

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« Reply #647 on Nov 9, 2007, 12:25am »


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I have found myself seemingly on a similar page to Danny boy. I agree 100% since page 40 and most of the more recent posts. Do you see how your persecution is now irreversible Dan? The cast is set in stone now. That is what happens when you don't obey the (their) rules of enlightenment. I know what you were/are trying to do and your energy and effort is nothing short of amazing. It still fascinates me. Kudos.

But no one is going to really get what you are trying to say because we light our own path. I see you are making quite a bit of sense these days, I can't disagree with much you have said anyways. Just sad to see that so much judging and such a situation could arise with open minds present. To each their own? Are we each allowed to have our own beliefs or do we need to be told and adopt one belief? All paths converge?

We are totally different and from different places, but we do have our commonalities or similarities for what they are worth.



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« Reply #648 on Nov 9, 2007, 12:29am »

(cont.)

And look how simple it is…………..

My contention is that mathematics is alive.

Why?

Because the universe is alive, and we know from the mathematical physicists that the universe is based on mathematics:

Ergo, math is alive, i.e. it is organic.

If you don’t believe in the organicity of math, then just stick z’ = z^2 + C (Mandelbrot) in your calculator, and you will see what I mean.

This is just a restatement of the Strong Anthropic Principle, SAP.

QED.

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« Reply #649 on Nov 9, 2007, 12:55am »

(cont.)

Did I skip a couple of steps? Let me fill in.

To dissect is to kill.

School math is but a vivisection of the organic living math that underpins the ‘laws’ of physics.

The Mandelbrot may be usefully compared to the frozen cross-section of a once living cell.

With our machines, computers and roulette wheels we have killed the once living math.

Perspicacity killed the cat, will curiosity bring her back?

No, curiosity, idle magic is not enough.

Where there is a will, there is a way.

Next time you are being anal probed by a grey, ask him about the strength of their collective will vs. our puny little ego-centric wills.

Do you get the picture now?

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(cont.)

Did I skip a couple of steps? Let me fill in.

To dissect is to kill.

School math is but a vivisection of the organic living math that underpins the ‘laws’ of physics.

The Mandelbrot may be usefully compared to the frozen cross-section of a once living cell.

With our machines, computers and roulette wheels we have killed the once living math.

Perspicacity killed the cat, will curiosity bring her back?

No, curiosity, idle magic is not enough.

Where there is a will, there is a way.

Next time you are being anal probed by a grey, ask him about the strength of their collective will vs. our puny little ego-centric wills.

Do you get the picture now?

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"Big whorls have little whorls,
Which feed on their velocity;
And little whorls have lesser whorls,
And so on to viscosity."
Lewis Richardso

Mandelbrot’s fourth dimension – the space-time continuum of Man and Nature in constant change re: feedback. An open system.

The Mandelbrot mathematical formula can only be seen on your computer (a material object) If you don’t see the paradox in your twists Dan, there’s little hope for you.
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« Reply #651 on Nov 9, 2007, 1:08am »

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The Mandelbrot mathematical formula can only be seen on your computer (a material object) If you don’t see the paradox in your twists Dan, there’s little hope for you.

Well, at least you are still awake. Everyone else in Gethsemane has gone to sleep.
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(cont.)

Did I skip a couple of steps? Let me fill in.

To dissect is to kill.

School math is but a vivisection of the organic living math that underpins the ‘laws’ of physics.

The Mandelbrot may be usefully compared to the frozen cross-section of a once living cell.

With our machines, computers and roulette wheels we have killed the once living math.

Perspicacity killed the cat, will curiosity bring her back?

No, curiosity, idle magic is not enough.

Where there is a will, there is a way.

Next time you are being anal probed by a grey, ask him about the strength of their collective will vs. our puny little ego-centric wills.

Do you get the picture now?

(cont.)


"Big whorls have little whorls,
Which feed on their velocity;
And little whorls have lesser whorls,
And so on to viscosity."
Lewis Richardso

Mandelbrot’s fourth dimension – the space-time continuum of Man and Nature in constant change re: feedback. An open system.

The Mandelbrot mathematical formula can only be seen on your computer (a material object) If you don’t see the paradox in your twists Dan, there’s little hope for you.
I think he is oblivious to them. It doesn't take a Phd. professor to keep pointing out the obvious.

Yet he is both ignoring the feedback and being blind (imo) as to what he is saying.

Like Jake says, there seems to be no rational to the madness. No universal point of agreement on his own words. It shifts wildly from day to day and from post to post rendering previous words moot by way of deep contradictions.

It follows closer to a train of thought that hasn't yet solidified on any given point, than something that relates to anything beyond Dan's mind. Largely mental meanderings I would say.

(all IMO)
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Caryn,

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The Mandelbrot mathematical formula can only be seen on your computer (a material object) If you don’t see the paradox in your twists Dan, there’s little hope for you.

Well, at least you are still awake. Everyone else in Gethsemane has gone to sleep.


Or they found the futility of discussion. (Dan are you the Borg?)

If you continue to ride this conversation in the same way for many more months to come. Then the tempo of this conversation will flatline. You may find that you can post just about anything and cause almost no discussion to occur. Even controversial statements may fail to get a rise out of your audience eventually.

But I am sure you know that, right?
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Some people mistake compassion for weakness or think of it as giving in. It is neither. It takes a much stronger person to show that compassion while at the same time, doing their job.
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« Reply #654 on Nov 9, 2007, 1:55am »

Out of the NT...
“These things I have spoken to you in figurative language; but the time is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figurative language, but I will tell you plainly about the Father."

"JC1" had the right of it. Maybe it's time for some plain language?
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« Reply #655 on Nov 9, 2007, 2:48am »

PLAIN LANGUAGE: Instead of "It is finished", we can now read " You are all finished". A truer statement is impossible. Where we are you are long gone and delightfully so. Your belief is not required.
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PLAIN LANGUAGE: Instead of "It is finished", we can now read " You are all finished". A truer statement is impossible. Where we are you are long gone and delightfully so. Your belief is not required.
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If I am one of those who are finished, I can only take solace that apparently higher beings have to self-edit and can make typographical errors as well. It is well with my soul.
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« Reply #657 on Nov 9, 2007, 4:56am »

"Yea though I walk through the valley of death, I will fear no evil: for Thou art with me; Thy rod and Thy staff they comfort me."





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crossing place of the heaven and of the earth=Spirituality
??it's great to have an open mind not so open your brains fall out??

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« Reply #658 on Nov 10, 2007, 1:56am »

What we sit within is one of you, so mistakes in flesh are plentiful and they add to the authenticity that encourages disbelief. Perfection would give us away and we would feed less. You should see how our working of the work from this works. Disbelief is our greatest friend, our impenetrable shield.
Now surly you can not believe these words.
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What we sit within is one of you, so mistakes in flesh are plentiful and they add to the authenticity that encourages disbelief. Perfection would give us away and we would feed less. You should see how our working of the work from this works. Disbelief is our greatest friend, our impenetrable shield.
Now surly you can not believe these words.
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Shoot... my vocabulary isn't as extensive as it used to be. What is that thing called that is an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment?
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