"And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:" (Rev. 10:1)
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Re: VLAA-SDP Open Discussion - Part 2 « Reply #871 on Nov 16, 2007, 3:10pm »
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Re: VLAA-SDP Open Discussion - Part 2 « Reply #873 on Nov 16, 2007, 5:41pm »
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Jake and Tel,
Both of you believe in ET civilizations that have survived for perhaps a thousand times as long as ours.
Do you suppose they have a Bible?
Would you want to know what is in their Bible?
Hi Dan,
I'll bite. I suppose they have a Bible. And, sure, I'd be curious to read what theirs has to say. However, since truth is as universal as God is, I already have a pretty good idea what it is going to say.
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Re: VLAA-SDP Open Discussion - Part 2 « Reply #874 on Nov 16, 2007, 6:00pm »
Often when i read Dans thread I find myself asking this question. Is he teaching something here or is he looking for something here? Those (Christians) who know, truly know deep inside-have known all along. Sometimes the light switch has to be turned on but it was there all along. Dan has your light switch been flipped on? Your no spring chicken and these sorts of things are important.
About this I don't think you have ever really made your point clear.
So you might think they would want to come down strongly on the UT side of the UT vs. ET issue. But they don't.
crossing place of the heaven and of the earth=Spirituality ??it's great to have an open mind not so open your brains fall out??
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Re: VLAA-SDP Open Discussion - Part 2 « Reply #875 on Nov 16, 2007, 6:06pm »
Dan, I read your blog. I had to smile. Laying it out to your blogosphere, and telling them you are tieing up the Fundies and all with your brilliant insights to reality. Presenting your immaculate BPWH which will put the solution to this world's problems on automatic, I was wondering if there was another OMF out there? Surely, that is not possible? Then I saw the reference to how you blasted Jake, and I said "no.........that has got to be too coincidental!" It has to be this forum you are talking about. Except over here, it's different. After 300 pages of challenges and unanswered questions and questions in response to questions, we are all still here at the starting gate with our tracks on waiting for that starter gun to go off. The Fundies are hopefully trying to bring you out of the darkness of your own strange predilections and I suppose the New Agers just think you are one more messiah come to earth. The IDs probably just don't consider it worth it. But it does bring a sad smile.
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Re: VLAA-SDP Open Discussion - Part 2 « Reply #876 on Nov 16, 2007, 6:46pm »
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The Xians in ufology represent the bleeding edge of the no-man's land between science and religion. They are barely aware of how precarious is their situation. I am not reluctant to rub their noses in it.
Mr. Smith, I didn't know where to begin my kibitzing but the brief paragraph of yours quoted above sort of jumped out at me.
Why does there have to be a separation of church and science? There are several passages in the Bible that point towards scientific truth. I in no way feel like I'm standing in the gap waiting for one of the edges to crumble. Just because the scriptures don't necessarily address life on other planets doesn't mean it isn't a possibility.
God is an Artisan. He is a prolific creator and I don't believe He would stop at just one world. While He might have created millions of planets and sparked life on thousands of different worlds, that is not the point.
The point is, we should be focusing on our world and our eschaton.
A good cookbook has recipes. It doesn't discuss political science. The bible is a road map to salvation. Everything in there points towards the Way. Perhaps that is why I'm reluctant to take your detour.
That being said, I do consider the paranormal and extraterrestrial to be a hobby of mine. These topics intrigue me but they are not my main focus. God created the sky to be gazed upon so I will continue to do so.
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Re: VLAA-SDP Open Discussion - Part 2 « Reply #877 on Nov 16, 2007, 7:34pm »
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My job is just the conceptual one of giving you a cursory introduction. Much of that introduction will be a review of how we got here in the first place.
Many may feel that they have been lured here under false pretenses, and there is a modicum of truth to that. It is much more the case of operating on a need to know basis. We need to know what we need to know, when we need to know it. And, trust me, we ain't seen nothin' yet. And that applies to yours truly nearly as much as to you. I would not be a good teacher if I were not also a good student, learning right here on the job. Don't you find that reassuring!!
Yes, there is some confusion as to how we got here.
And, hey, that's mostly our (management's) 'fault'. If any of you did get fooled, it was only by the best in the business. Had you not been, you and I wouldn't be here now. Always keep that in mind. Wrt the BPW, things could have always, always been a lot worse! That's why we call it the BPW!
For some time now, I have been running into a lot of flack from the Universalists. I don't mean the Church that goes by that name, but rather those who will feel cheated to find out that we are not actually Lost in Space. So, you see how this works, there's plenty of apologizing to go around, if you think you haven't been cheated yet, your turn will probably come.
A lot of us, especially ufologists, have been waiting, oh so patiently, for our very first ride in a flying saucer and to go zipping around this vast Universe of ours. The Universe was going to be our Heaven! You are my poor, dear Universalists. I gotta tell ya, right now, when it comes to the Universe, it is WYSIWYG, for sure. You may not really need or want to go there, because they're all dying to come here, and we do mean that, literally. Even I can be literal, once in a while.
Just this one little apology to the Universalists could take up books and books, and I'm going to give it my best shot with a couple of paragraphs. See, why should I take all the apologizing fun away from the rest of you? You'll be getting the knack of it in no time. Besides, my stomach is rumbling for its lunch, and Sam should call any minute...........! Oooops, he just called. Saved by the bell! Sophia, you'll just have to fend for yourself, my dear. It must be tough being stood-up like this.
Anybody want to take a shot at explaining this to me?
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Re: VLAA-SDP Open Discussion - Part 2 « Reply #878 on Nov 16, 2007, 8:50pm »
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Jake and Tel,
Both of you believe in ET civilizations that have survived for perhaps a thousand times as long as ours.
Do you suppose they have a Bible?
Would you want to know what is in their Bible?
I dunno if they have a bible. But there is a rhyme she used while instructing me on my development. The rhyme core was numerical and got ever more complicated as you kept learning it.
It was almost like a nursery rhyme that teaches you all about the "big world" out there. It had what I can only surmise to be alien religious belief and/or convictions. Every time I have thought about writing about it, I get a stern warning that it is way off limits.
I do not understand the concern and suppose that it must be a personal issue. I also wonder if it is an issue of not introducing some tidbit of information that potentially holds something like a key to other understandings, that may have escaped my notice. Whatever the reason, it seems to be taboo to mention it.
So I will try to mention it and see how far I can go before something terrible happens to me. I have no intention of going in depth since I don't want to reveal the long chain of the "rhyme".
[Note: it reads like a complex nursery rhyme so I will just use plain English instead.]
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The rhyme begins with the ground floor of three. There were three. The triangle symbol is associated with this.
The three potentials of the triangle.
The center power is special or what seems to equate to be the source of creation. It stands as a universal potential that acts on two minor potentials. This universal power has two other power which interact with it.
A power which I understood as a positive potential, and a potential that seemed to equate to a negative power.
The universal/neutral potential decides between the potentials. It can either help the negative potential to exert it's influence on all of ?creation?. Or the universal potential turns it's power to help the positive potential in all of creation.
[They are warning me that ?someone? will notice where this story comes from.]
If the universal power does not help either minor power then things remain in a fixed state with balance.
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Then there is the next step in the rhyme of understanding.
Four is the next numerical. No symbol that I can remember, seems to be mostly concepts.
It talks about four things which protect the powers. They are confusing concepts, like they are the four directions. They are like keepers.
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My mind just went blank.. .. (having trouble remembering, so I guess this is as far as the train goes.)
Miss "A"'s beliefs on God was that it was everywhere in creation. That creation was like a living thing constantly changing and rearranging itself. She said they don't believe in a God concept of a man sitting on a throne. That the majority from where she comes from hold that creation is God.
She said that creation is more expansive than our universe and reality, and that life is found everywhere. More than brimming is what I remember her saying. And she spoke with an odd kind of awe when she mentioned what they see as being God.
So they seem to have various belief systems. Miss "A" belief was just a very odd kind of system. Their God doesn't seem to have many human like qualities. Not sure if it was even a God deity figure or not to be honest. And her concepts of a reincarnation and life, is quite a bit different.
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But the main thing they seemed to believe in deeply was a triangle symbol. I dunno why. It seems to represent some kind of foreign God type of individual or Godly interplay of forces. And she seemed to hold it in high regard as we would hold a cross symbol
I can only glean so much from the rhyme and it has been a long time since I have heard it recited. It also doesn't help that my mind just went blank( ) to the point I can't remember even the lengthy parts of the rhyme....
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Anyway, that is as far as I got this time.
@ Dan
You may now commence flaming me for posting an alien belief system.
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Re: VLAA-SDP Open Discussion - Part 2 « Reply #879 on Nov 16, 2007, 8:51pm »
Tel,
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God is an Artisan. He is a prolific creator and I don't believe He would stop at just one world. While He might have created millions of planets and sparked life on thousands of different worlds, that is not the point.
The point is, we should be focusing on our world and our eschaton.
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Re: VLAA-SDP Open Discussion - Part 2 « Reply #881 on Nov 16, 2007, 9:57pm »
Tel,
Re. Universalist definition……..
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Please clarify your meaning as it relates to me, if you please. There are several interpretations of this label. Thank you.
You already did…………..
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God is an Artisan. He is a prolific creator and I don't believe He would stop at just one world. While He might have created millions of planets and sparked life on thousands of different worlds……
Re: VLAA-SDP Open Discussion - Part 2 « Reply #882 on Nov 17, 2007, 2:03am »
Labels, the senses of the human, All is laid before you! In the confined reality of the universe, of course there are other worlds and other configurations of life. The souls of this life and all life are the one consistent things. Complexity is generated in human thought, because GOD does not need it to achieve the goals. Complexity is a human construct to explain and justify the human inability to understand the simple and supernatural ways of the one and only agenda. Demons, Vultures of the end, soul consumers and recyclers, aliens, all the same thing. IC
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Re: VLAA-SDP Open Discussion - Part 2 « Reply #883 on Nov 17, 2007, 6:31am »
Dan~ Your thread is quite frustrating. I made a post to the "show time" thread earlier tonight. I had not read that particular thread until tonight. In reading it I realized that as a newbie to this place ~you don't have any answers. No real inside info, no nothing since May when "show time" was first posted. This place is hard enough to figure out without distraction. OMF is like a big museum - of the past. I liken it to walking through a mind of insane thoughts~ only the people posting those thoughts are very much sane. The ptb causing the insanity. You may very well be grouped in that category. If you have something to say "spit it out already"...
I don't think your getting this. Let me try it from your perspective.
Hi I'm Dan and I've spent 30 years of my life attempting to figure out God, Alien contact and the best way to handle the coming extinction of all mankind. But don't get too far ahead of yourselves here, it's complicated! I believe this disaster can be adverted if we all just follow the BPWH. Lets pull ourselves up by our own boot straps! In my new book BPWH you will find the answers to why it's not ET'S that are the problem but rather UT'S. A UT is multidimensional. An ET is nothing more than a distraction or a piece of junk attempting to ride the human soul into the kingdom of heaven. If you buy my book here is what you will receive............
I'm not asking for any money I just need one person to buy...and see me as their messiah. For I WILL awaken all the souls of all man kind.
OK Dan so that's pretty harsh but honestly~ what is it you are attempting to convey? It could be as simple as "God is gone and we are alone lets just geterdone" Or God awaits our arrival. As soon as we all wake our spiritual inner beings up , we will be one with God. Or We are the only focus of God and the best possible world is to Love one another with all our hearts. Or the reptilian gods are coming prepare!!!
So in this book you will get Dans Best or the Best of Dan! Common dude! You sound like a 4th grader who saw a bad accident! SPIT IT OUT. It might be important!
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things which protect the powers. They are confusing concepts, like they are the four directions. They are like keepers.
.. (having trouble remembering, so I guess this is as far as the train goes.)
) to the point I can't remember even the lengthy parts of the rhyme....