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« Thread Started on Mar 12, 2009, 9:32pm »

CK called while I was having lunch with my friend Sam.

In connection with RU’s new and continuing series on the Core Story, Steve Broadbent asked CK to verify the official status of Source ‘A’.

CK told me that he cannot do that. Today he is questioning that Source ‘A’ is the same person as the Naval Officer (Captain?) who met with Bruce Maccabee.

I told him that I would mention here his uncertainty about whether the two persons were, indeed, the same person.

I warned CK that his questioning of the identity would likely create a considerable disturbance here. He then questioned whether I should mention it. I said it would be negligent for me not to do so. So he relented. I think he also realized that I would not relent.

If there is a continuing concern about this matter, then we may wish to transfer this topic back to the UN section.

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« Reply #1 on Mar 12, 2009, 9:46pm »

IMHO……….

CK has ulterior motives to further involve himself in the affairs of Source ‘A’.

We might hope that, as now a possible appointed Intelligence official in the new Administration, he might have better things to do!

We may surmise either……

1.) His new job, as of 10/08, was not a promotion or 'political' appointment, or

2.) The BPWH Disclosure scenario is on track

Allow me to make a prediction based on hypothesis #2.…..

CK is doing a retroactive ‘Doty’ on Source ‘A’.

By that I mean CK will retroactively have Source 'A' removed from the official 'picture', i.e. the Navy will, very late in the game, attempt to distance itself from any and all (dis-) information conveyed by Source ‘A’ to OM/Pickerings.

What will be the net effect? The net effect will be to greatly stir this Pot, beyond what would have been the case had Source ‘A’ simply remained on an extended Sabbatical.

That is, in fact, CK’s ulterior motive in calling me today.

Does this sound too convoluted?

It is certainly not too convoluted, if we are actually involved, right here at OM, in a matter of national and global security.

And how could that possibly not be the case??

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« Reply #2 on Mar 12, 2009, 10:23pm »

Or is this the beginning of the closing of the coffin on this story and preps for ramping up a new one?
Man, we need a new one! The juice is gone!
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« Reply #3 on Mar 12, 2009, 10:34pm »

Eth,

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Or is this the beginning of the closing of the coffin on this story and preps for ramping up a new one?
Man, we need a new one! The juice is gone!

CK knows how to get juice from a (cremated) cadaver.

If CK wanted SA to ride off into the sunset, he could have refrained from calling.

But, no, evidently CK wants to have an official, politically inspired Wake for SA!

Get your beer mugs ready.....!

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« Reply #4 on Mar 13, 2009, 12:56am »

Hmmm..............

No comment from Temporal & Co.

Has the Cat got their tongue?

Should I repeat myself for the East Coast/NY audience??

The only guy in DC who matters to Disclosure has called your BLUFF.

Are you going to roll over and play dead?

Have you given up the good fight??

All that CK is asking for is an executive summary of the establishment of Source A’s identity.

Is that too much to ask for??

Or don't you give a sh*t, anymore....?

Pardon my French, but have you fallen asleep?

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« Reply #5 on Mar 13, 2009, 1:09am »

Very interesting stuff Dan...

IMHO...There is NO doubt CK is keeping up on what's going on right here on OM.

As I said earlier in one of your "niffy named" threads," I think we'll be hearing more from CK this year"...

Long Live The R&D Show.... ;D


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Mar 12, 2009, 10:23pm, etherian wrote:
Or is this the beginning of the closing of the coffin on this story and preps for ramping up a new one?
Man, we need a new one! The juice is gone!


Well we are over due...if some juice comes down the pike...I hope its got some kick to it! ;D

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« Reply #7 on Mar 13, 2009, 1:24am »

Roger, epo.

It's like they are on life support over there. ;D
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« Reply #8 on Mar 13, 2009, 3:59am »


Mar 12, 2009, 9:32pm, dan wrote:
Today he is questioning that Source ‘A’ is the same person as the Naval Officer (Captain?) who met with Bruce Maccabee.


I remember You and I discussing the same thing months ago during a phone conversation.

The dates did not align.

My recollection is/was CK had thought the BMac meeting had happened as much as 2 years ago.

Temp's timeline was much more recent.


Edit...And kudos to Steve for pinning CK down
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« Reply #9 on Mar 13, 2009, 4:37am »

And still no word from next door??

It's like we were pulling teeth.....

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« Reply #10 on Mar 13, 2009, 4:46am »

Patience. We are not the center of the universe. I am sure you are not being ignored.
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« Reply #11 on Mar 13, 2009, 4:58am »

What do you expect them to say?

Whoops?

Besides, CK was probably wrong in the first place....BMac did meet again at the UFO convention by accident with "A"

That was May or June last year I believe.

BMac never confirmed that to me though, but Temp posted it when Eth asked the question about "A" attended Ufo Conferences.

"A" at a ufo show seem not to fit, but what do I know.
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« Reply #12 on Mar 13, 2009, 5:14am »

Mur,

You're right about the X-con meeting. A bit strange! But that still doesn't speak to CK's question about that person being the same person as Source 'A'.

All that the Pickerings have to do is state precisely when and how they compared A's identity with Bruce.

Also, who arranged or suggested the meeting with Bruce? And when exactly did it take place? Just to be helpful.

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What [does CK] expect them to say? Whoops?

Yes, really!!

That’s why we have to wonder what this rehashing is really about.

Perhaps they (Pickerings) have a legitimate concern that CK will go after A’s pension, or something. Or that Steve Broadbent would.

But it is a bit late now to start worrying about such details(!), or to run for cover, wouldn’t one think?!

Can they not understand that all of this Show would have been plotted out, from Day One?!

My God, this may be amateur hour on our end of it…..BUT not on their (USG/Navy) end!

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« Reply #13 on Mar 13, 2009, 8:49am »


Mar 13, 2009, 5:14am, dan wrote:
But that still doesn't speak to CK's question about that person being the same person as Source 'A'.

All that the Pickerings have to do is state precisely when and how they compared A's identity with Bruce.

Also, who arranged or suggested the meeting with Bruce? And when exactly did it take place? Just to be helpful.


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amature hour on your end maybe, lol, the Pickerings are being pretty darn professional.

So CK wants to know precise details about when Bruce met with him, etc, eh?

Why?

So you can hunt down the event on some video camera more easily?

I'd be leary about passing such information to you Dan. Especially when the three letter acronyms are notorious for being the hands behind intimidations, ruinations, and funerals. Add to that two obviously HUGE egos...well, I wouldn't go there...but who knows what Temporal will choose to do.

Should be interesting to see how relevant CK is considered right now to this particular group of pro-disclosures, his demands at least, while Source is under a gag order. Aparently he (CK) hasn't been in the loop todate, judging by the questions? Or maybe he is irreverant to legalities like gag orders. If he is irreverent to such legalities, what other legalities is he and his posse irreverent to? And for what reason?

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« Reply #14 on Mar 13, 2009, 1:39pm »

CK apparently sometimes forgets what he says . . .

In spring 2007 CK called Ivo (ivo5000 - a Co-Admin of this forum) and answered a number of planned questions, of which CK knew that the questions and answers would be posted on this forum. After the call, Ivo in his diligence to remember all aspects of the conversation immediately called and told me about the call. He later posted the particulars on the forum, here.

CK then denied he'd given such answers, in an email exchange amoung a number of Ufological VIP's. He suggested that Ivo was mistaken and laking in accurate recall. So effective was CK in his about-face, that Dr. Jack Sarfatti refused to believe that Ivo was telling the truth. And vehemently ridiculed Ivo for spreading false information.

Many emails flew around over this.

Eventually CoR25 (CK's acquaintance of 25 years) weighed in and supported his belief that the items told to Ivo are true as far as CF knows them to be true.

Disgruntled Dr Jack Sarfatti eventually believed that Ivo was revealing some truth of CK's position on certain issues, as reported. But none-the-less, the die was cast to shroud the episode with doubt.

At the time CK told Ivo that he reported to Mike McConnell (the Director of National Intelligence - http://www.dni.gov/). He said that his role at that time, was focused on the foreign intelligence community.



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