"Window of Opportunity" « Thread Started on Nov 13, 2008, 1:18am »
Hi all.
I haven't seen this posted here, but apologies if I missed it.
A few weeks ago now, an extremely interesting topic entitled "Window of Opportunity" developed on another forum, in which someone claiming to be a very high level deep insider from a "ruling bloodline family" conducted a question and answer session with our members.
Some members thought it to be a hoax, some felt it to be true, and many others treated it with an open mind.
Some of us have decided to share this information with other forums we know of, because if there is even the slightest chance that what "Hidden Hand" shared is true, then it could be one of the most important things you'll ever read.
Either way, what followed in this Q&A makes for fascinating reading, at least in my opinion anyway, though you must of course judge for yourselves. The only thing I would add, is to do as suggested by the original poster, treat it with an open mind, and read through the whole document carefully before deciding whether or not to dismiss or accept its validity.
No need to reply to me personally, I'm just passing on the message as I feel it to be important, and I don't know if or when I'll be around to check any replies.
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Re: "Window of Opportunity" « Reply #5 on Nov 17, 2008, 7:13am »
if it is true, then it's for us the people to know what's really going on. i never thought about negativity coming to us from a group of people as being the catalyst so we can work on ourselves and be good. it makes sense though, Adam and Eve knew nothing, they were like sheep, ignorant. So, how could they be truly benign if they didn't know about evil? you have to know to not be evil, right?
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Re: "Window of Opportunity" « Reply #6 on Nov 17, 2008, 10:17am »
mix a with b 90% of A and 10% of B - keeps and allows them not to reveal their hand just yet until they are ready to lump us with the good the bad and the ugly in a few years time
At first glance these series of posts appear to be taken from the "Revelations of an elite family insider" which was posted on GLP a few years ago. These posts are suspected to be made by the late Mariano Artigas:
However Dr. Artigas passed away in 2006 when Senator John McCain was not a contender in the 2008 presidential race. The writings being discussed here mention Senators McCain and Obama which indicate they were written as of late. Perhaps the tone and topics of 'Window of Opportunity' posts are similar to what was allegedly written by Dr. Artigas but they are not the same.
i finished reading it, and i must say, it is VERY intriguing. i recommend reading it to those who haven't.
I agree, I have studied secret societies for a long time. A lot of this does make sense. I don't know if this is a hoax or not. It sure sounds interesting. I guess this is something where you either believe or not. Or you do it like me... let your feelings guide you on this..
At first glance these series of posts appear to be taken from the "Revelations of an elite family insider" which was posted on GLP a few years ago. These posts are suspected to be made by the late Mariano Artigas:
However Dr. Artigas passed away in 2006 when Senator John McCain was not a contender in the 2008 presidential race. The writings being discussed here mention Senators McCain and Obama which indicate they were written as of late. Perhaps the tone and topics of 'Window of Opportunity' posts are similar to what was allegedly written by Dr. Artigas but they are not the same.
I've read the "Window of Opportunity" in its entirety and I've read about 1/3 of the Insider material. My sense is they are not written by the same person. Hidden_Hands is much more eloquent and articulate than the Insider poster and he/she seems to have a more spiritual perspective. Maybe I haven't read enough of Insider, yet, but that is my initial impresssion. "Windows" may very well be a hoax but it resonates with me. Another reading, more study and discussion of the material is necessary to see whether my perspective changes.
Thanks for posting the link for us, enquiringmind!
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Re: "Window of Opportunity" « Reply #12 on Nov 19, 2008, 3:58pm »
First off, thank you enquiringmind for bringing this to OMF. It is a fascinating read. There is a tremendous amount that could be discussed about this, definitely. I wish I would have known about this as it was happening - there are some questions I would like to have posed!
Based on what I have read and understand previously, including from other "higher density" sources, this material resonates quite well, and even fills in some blanks for me. The notion of Lucifer being a good spirit playing "bad cop" is quite intriguing. After hearing from the prosecution all my life, it's interesting to hear what the defense has to say.
Because I thing that, regardless of the messenger, the message is quite resonant, I will proceed under the hypothesis that what Hidden_Hand describes with regard to spiritual matters is essentially true. However, I would like to bring up one point that did not ring true for me. That is the notion that "...this is a Game,...and no one is really hurt." People do get hurt - souls need repair. The victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not hurt? Those murdered are not hurt? There is a callousness in this statement that I find questionable. I'm not sure if it is a perspective problem (must be warm and cozy under whatever mountain Hidden-Hand sits), or, more likely, a rationalization to make the chore of attaining 95% negative score more bearable. But I find that a false comfort.
There are other interesting questions this dialog raises, if you honor the writer's wish to suspend disbelief and consider the scenario as a whole. For instance, assume that the time of "harvest" plays out as he describes. There are four (yes four) things that can happen to you. (1) You are more than 50% STO, make the grade and go on to a 4d+ Earth; (2) You are Donald Trump-level STS and graduate to 4d- Earth (they will have casinos, it sounds like); (3) You are a flunky and held back to repeat 3rd grade, with some little epiphany between classes; (4) You are a Wanderer and auditing the class or acting as a teaching assistant.
So I have two questions here. First, if, say, you are a luke-warm and continue with most of the other humans in 3d, what do you perceive happening to those who graduate? If your spouse goes to 4d at judgment day, do you see them as dying? Or does some other soul walk in unbeknownst to you (except somehow (s)he just doesn't make as good an omelet anymore)? Given that some sizable, if not huge, fraction of the population is harvested, I could see that manifest as one or more global death events, such as a pandemic or a series of attacks (nuclear, terrorist, what have you). Any thoughts?
Second, what happens to the Wanderers? Do they check out at the same time as the graduates, or do they stick around to live out the remainder of their natural lives, each reporting back as (s)he wraps up business here. The Wanderers are here mostly to help in the transition process - I could see them helping with the post-epiphanized/traumatized 3d recyclers.
Edit to add: All this could definitely affect my financial planning.
Re: "Window of Opportunity" « Reply #13 on Nov 19, 2008, 7:20pm »
Great points Raz! I read the material. It was compelling. I also agree with you on the 'game' issue.
I also found myself thinking about our society's traditional construct of Lucifer. This explanation by Hidden_Hands is interesting to say the least. Of course, one would expect our traditional "Lucifer" to possess a compelling back-story if he was ever to go public. What is a more compelling back story than to advocate that we all treat one another as we expect to be treated ourselves. The golden rule, advocated by Lucifer himself.
That said, there is much that rings true in the postings. An enigma.
Re: "Window of Opportunity" « Reply #14 on Nov 19, 2008, 10:15pm »
This is a compelling piece of work because it is such a different perspective, however, I don't think these ideas are beyond originating from a mere mortal. Having said that, I do find many of these ideas worthy of contemplation...
- that Lucifer is not "an entity", but rather a group soul. From this perspective I can view the principles without personalities getting in the way. Personalities are irrelevent and confusing and drag ego into the mix - a sure detriment to understanding. I maintain this position regarding ALL personalities - positive and negative - that may get in the way of my understanding.
- that the notion of freewill is directly connected to the knowledge of good and evil. I sense this may be Spirituality 101 and so foundational to understanding that I've spent the last year grappling with this very concept - knowing intuitively how important the Fall was. (the first five minutes of the movie, I call it)
- that evil functions as a service by showing us what we are not. We take our light for granted until we encounter true darkness. In a perfectly perfect world, we'd never even notice the Light. Enter Lucifer.
Many other concepts in this piece, these are just a few.
Regarding Hidden_Hand, I think it is irrelevent who he actually is although he did somewhat "show his hand" near the end as he became more cavalier regarding his alleged evil deeds. All in all though, some good points to ponder. This is a good read.
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