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Prologue, When I was a child (4 years and younger) the Grey's (I didn't get to see them) used to pose as male disembodied voices and I found that disturbing so I never trusted males entities ever again. I would have nightmares of feeling like I was levitating from my bed with my eyes closed and feeling this unbelievable force push me deep into a sleeping void. In this void (sleeping state) I felt like current was running through my body and I stopped feeling the bed and generally would wake up crying or scared because I would be (the sensation at least) dropped onto the bed. Before these encounters, I would always sense a dreaded presence just seconds before the rest of the numerously repeated patterns of sensations occurred. This happened I think about every 3 days. For some reason, when I grew up, I would forget and did not remember this until a family member brought up night terrors I used to have. I thought it was just apparitions who bothered me in my sleep by giving me nightmares of them chasing me. The caretaker (pleiadian chick) would comfort me till I forgot and fell back asleep.

Later, she wanted me to make a contract with her but she would not tell me what it was and why. She said another part of me had already had this explained to, but that i would have to agree and that if I did, she would block my memory of everyday before that contract. She said the contract would only last till I was about 21 or 22 years old. And that if I wished to extend it after that point she would see when the time came. She said she needed "me to help her". I quickly agreed. She said I shouldn't take that decision so lightly and that I should take a while and think about it. I asked her how she could be talking to me if I was in the back of a moving car? (I was 5 and going to turn 6 I believe.) She said she was following me behind the car in the sky and to my left or right, I don't remember. I did look though and saw nothing. To which I didn't understand what she was talking about and proceeded to think (funnily like a child) that she must be outside the window of the car in the fast moving air.

I told her that I didn't know what she wanted me to agree to if she didn't tell me, but I felt in my gut that somehow this was necessary and okay. I said yes and she told me to close my eyes and lean forward in the seat and not to move. Then, she told me that she was going to block out of my mind every day before this one but that I would remember the contract I made with her vividly. She did her thing and I felt strange sensations and after about 2 Min's she told me when I got home to go to sleep immediately. About thirty or so minutes later I got home and went to sleep like she said, when I woke up I noticed I couldn't remember what happened the day before and she said it was normal and to not keep bothering to remember.

I grew up with her taking care of me and talking lots of stuff while I played with my toy cars. I used to stare at my fingers because i would see with my physical eyes a blue haze which I thought was cool (6 years old). I thought it was like the atmosphere of a planet that i saw on TV. (deep blue looked similar to the astronauts pictures of the earth from low orbit.) I was a child so I thought
some pretty strange things.

Her "associates" as she coined the term at the time, were two other males who were very serious but spoke like her. I didn't trust them for some reason since they didn't seem interested in wanting to know me at all. Note: at this time she would say what she wanted and then go over it again much slower and with much easier words for me to understand. At this point I got used to her method of speaking without using words. This was hard but more full in meaning. What I didn't get, she spoke in plain English. She sounds like a woman of about 24 to 27 years age. Her voice doesn't change over the years. Her associates took the backseat and let her communicate with me since they saw I didn't like to talk to them. This was to the point that when i wanted to talk to her and she was busy they would tell me to wait while they called for her.

During this time, I got sick from chicken pox (i think). She told me it was a disease and that I would be fine after a while, that it was okay to get injections. I asked her what was happening to me and her favorite phrase was "it's too complicated". How that annoyed me and I would bother her about never explaining what I wanted to know about. Then after one of the injection I complained why I needed to get injection from the d**n doctors and she told me she would for once try to explain but that I wouldn't understand. Then she started telling me that there are little blobs of things called bacteria. When I don't know the word, she uses a non-lingual version of telepathy, like a thought or idea rather than a word. This is how they normally speak, but it's easier to understand when they use English. Anyway she goes into this short conversation that I didn't understand and she said something about I will learn it when i get to school. Then she flashed a visual representation of what cells and blood look like. I Don't remember her ever doing that before then, but I thought it was cool to me at the time, since it was the first time I had experienced it. Then I got a headache and I told her I didn't understand. So she says basically that I shouldn't bother her when she tells me I wont understand and she goes on to explain that understanding something implies blocks of other understandings, and so on, to understand an idea. That I did understand, but it still annoyed me and I kept bothering her anyway.

Jump to about age 7. I remember rearranging my toys on the floor or something and I asked her what that sensation was above the house. She told me not to worry about it. I bugged her some more and she started talking to one of the other males and the male said something like: give me a moment. Then I noticed the Void sensation above the house move away and I started hearing the crickets make noise again. Then she said it is just a place she goes to rest and do her work. I thought this meant she was a weird phantom or a grotesque creature for some reason. I don't remember what i asked next but she got the man to move the void again and the crickets went silent again. I was surprised and I asked her to tell me how she does that. And she starts off with it's too complicated, and finished with insects and bug are sensitive to many things. Later in my teenager years she revealed that it was a ship and told me it was the reason why it felt like a "void" or a "fullness" rather than normal ambient psychic sensations and even later than that, revealed the technology of phasing-out.

Around 7 years old (maybe 6) I was inside my house when the caretaker told me to go outside quickly and look up. So I took my time getting to the front of the house and I hear my sister making noises (one year younger) that she saw a picture in the sky and a flying bathtub with people inside looking down. I was angry and bitter that I didn't get to see it. She said the other people would not do it again so I was out of luck. I never got to see a UFO for my whole life (BAH!). My sister is the strongest skeptic of the family but she believes me now and she still says she saw what she saw.

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It seems if I annoy the greys or think out of the box they like to pay me a visit. For example, I have drawn their attention again now that I am breaking the rules. I see sporadic formations of a future event of them paying me a visit 6 days out. It doesn't seem stable, as of yet, so im guessing they are still deciding.

When I was retiring in my contacts with my caretaker (pleiadian chick) they were rather displeased with me. I also noted one time when I was going to get an ultrasound and later an x-ray, for something unrelated, that they came consistently every night but I refused to follow their mental tricks of posting a mental suggestion and getting me to sleep. After two nights, I noticed they were coming every night in a desperate attempt to do something. I finally gave in because I was too tired to stay up until morning. The caretaker told me the greys are sensitive to radiation and without their purplish robes they will be affected quickly. (is that true?) They seem to like anywhere from 1:00am to 5:45am.

The caretaker (pleiadian chick) showed me how to do many tricks and revealed alot of information about them so I could avoid her superiors. That night, I slept lightly and left my higher mind aware. I stirred awake because I felt a strong presence approaching and I did not know what it was. So I did like she taught me in the past and left my mind blank To lure in whatever it was. It seemed to hold back since it noticed I awoke. I entered a relaxed state, and I started attempting to figure out what pattern matched with their signature. Suddenly, to my horror I remembered their old pattern from when I was small and had a lot of nightmares of being suspended in the dark and feeling these presences overtake me in the past.

I assumed this entity was a phantom of some kind. At this point in time, I did not know her superiors/co-workers (as she not so affectionately called them) were Grey's. they were cold and uncaring. I felt it come closer; I'm awake but I'm mimicking sleep and keeping my mind as silent as possible to lure them in. I start feeling an odd sensation of electricity going from my left abdomen upward. And I figure out quickly that this entity must be stunning me psychically. I stop the act and before I know it I can barely move even an eyelid, so I start performing the patterns in my energy that the caretaker taught me to break a hold like that. And I was scared because I assumed it was a ghost or cloud-like entity which uses a different method of suppression.

So here I am, rapidly having my energy pattern immobilized, when I am terrified and too curious to know what this thing is, that kept visiting me when I was small. I was expecting a grotesque creature like a phantom or something, but when my left eyelid opened as I broke it's hold, I moved my head slightly. I stared directly at a semi-phased group of Grey's. I was surprised I was actually seeing this thing in a waking real life state. The Grey was surprised I was breaking it's control and had a similar expression of surprise in it's mind like something akin to "well that didn't go to plan".

More scared of the fact that these things were real, I slowly lurched up out of my bed and just before I got up on my back I scanned the Grey's mind to figure out what kind of thing it was and I noticed it had no emotions but was seemingly made of purely intellect and was rigid in thoughts like analytical. I only sensed thought and intentions. It and his group pulled away and promptly disappeared. I noted that they raised their psychic "wall of silence" as I like to call it. They were still there just phased out. They spoke to another entity further away out of the room and I did not recognize it's pattern, but I started noticing the effort I had made to break the hold the Grey had on me, forced my abilities to go into a high state. I felt scared. I was walking toward the bathroom to splash water on my face but there was a being who was taller and had a Grey complexion. It was a very strong psychic and it told me to go back to bed. I ignored it. I saw imagery with my second sight of this being that I will never forget.

After I finished splashing water on my face, I noticed I could not make anyone wake up. Then, this leader who was almost my height started trying to put a hypnotic suggestion that I wanted to sleep so badly. And it was like the creature was trying to put me to sleep because it's mental pull was so great and so convincing, but the caretaker had already revealed to me about these tricks as well. I ignored it but it was so hard. I kept telling all these creatures that I would not sleep. And they got annoyed and they started pushing on my mind and the pressure on my head became so great that I thought I was going to have a nosebleed. Then I heard the larger Grey tell the three little ones that they must leave, because the window of opportunity was almost over. And then I felt one of the little Grey's run right through the wall near the big Grey and I heard a crash outside like it had caused a ladder to fall over. They left but were annoyed that I was giving them a hard time. The next few nights, I couldn't stand to keep this up for the next five nights of the doctors visit so I decided to give in and just sleep. I woke up the next morning with a familiar sensation of feeling cold and a drunk like effect. It passed like the caretaker had told me in the past within two or three hours.

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Good stuff Fore.

Do you remember your grey abductions at all? By that I mean, can you remember what happened during them, types of procedures, etc.?



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No i don't remember any events. What the caretaker (pleidian woman) said when we argued about her showing herself in physical so that i would continue to work with her (sad story). She said that when i was small about 5 years old she had a face to face meeting with me, her and the greys, but she claims that i paniced and i grabbed one of the greys arms and tried to hurt it in a panic attack. She said after this that they decided against showing themselves again.

I dont recall anything whatsoever, so as far as i am aware it never happened until proven otherwise. Although my higher mind has it's doubts that it might have happened. She kept claiming this was one of the reasons they were unwilling to try again. She helped me get over my fears. Like my fear of heights was a big one. And said that when they meet someone face to face there are about 5 different reactions, which she said two of the most often were violent or fear.

Reading this forum, i just realized that she was at one point trying to pull my non-physical body out so i could see her, I am very saddened that i did not accept this as a fact when she was saying so, years ago.

We made an agreement to seperate for 20 years or so and in that time i would pursue my dream of having a wife and family. She also was deeply saddened that we were going to seperate and i noticed in the months leading up to it she knew ahead of time that it would happen because of her future sight. She was depressed all the time before that event happened. She told me it was better that we take this break because if i continued with her i would neither achieve my dream nor get to live more than 9 years longer because of a heart attack from using my abilities progressively higher and over an elongated time. She gave me the last sad push between us to take a break.

She said she was going to a world near by to study how to manifest herself physically completely. There are a few things maybe some people should know about them. I learned this over years of time with her when she taught me how to profile entities when they would not reveal their identity.

1 - They are semi-physical
They posses bodies that while they may look like us they have an extension of themselves and their powers surrounding them. Some would call this a golden halo or an aura that is markedly Gold like and overwhelming.

2 - They do not seem to be all of the time be situated in our time. For example, one day when i was young she told me if i loved my little birds to go and pet it. I asked her why. And she went roundabout in her conversation and when pushed finally told me my little bird was going to die. I said to her that i didn't believe her, she said it was true. I asked her when this was supposedly going to happen? She said for her in the next three minutes. I waited three minutes and nothing happened. So i called her a liar. Three days later the little bird died. :'(

I thought of nothing about that incident, and maybe around when i was 10 or so she had left for a few days. She came back announcing from far away somewhere that they were "finishing synchonizing to your time". As you can imagine, I raised my eyebrow wondering what she was talking about this time.(i didn't think she was an alien, just a really odd being). When she got closer to me from her "place" she said that she and i were "now in synch". I asked her what she was talking about but she (i dont remember honestly) ignored me i think.

Time passed and she made more predictions which i scoffed at the idea she could. So she told me when things were going to happen and they did. I thought all the time it was coincidence. Then when i got into my "your not real and i must be crazy!" years she started to show she was not a figment of my imagination by predicting things and telling me what others around me were doing and what would happen tommorrow down to every detail. When i went online in about 1998 and against her wishes looked for information by asking people in yahoo chat rooms. She would make predictions and ask me to tell them. In one prediction, she predicted 3 years ahead of time that there would be a large explosion in new york city. She said that i should tell them it will happen in some time and roughly around September/October/November. She made it sound like a large explosion so i thought she meant a nuclear bomb. But she never said it was a nuclear bomb she just said there was alot of "artificial terror". This was 9/11 by the way.

Point is, they can see the future. They know what will happen tommorrow, rev, and what you will talk about in detail and what is up ahead in several months to years time.

3 - Their known mind to contactee's are just fronts.
When she was making those predictions to people . Which this made me feel like a fool telling them about her and saying what she wanted till she proved her point. They believed she was real but i didn't accept the possibliity. She read thier mind and told me what they were thinking and many things. But i was a hard person to accept her as real. In one experiment in 2002 after 6 years of training with her to learn how to use my abilities, she was aligning my energy patterns to a new configuration and help me unblock the garbage that builds up in the non-physical body. She was having me do remote viewing while i was talking to a friend of mine. Suddenly i see a flash in my sight and i can't see anything for a microsecond and suddenly i am seeing through the friend's husbands' eyes. The friend was asking me how her husband felt about her. I was her husband seeing through his eyes for about 4 seconds. When i relayed this amazing thing to her she replied that what i saw happened about an hour ago.

The caretaker fooled about a bit more a couple hours later and suddenly it happens again and i see through the caretakers eyes and i see the back of my head and i see through her eyes, peering over my shoulder reading a conversation im having within a chatroom and seeing conversational possibilities that didn't take place. But the little i read it was very close to what actually happened. For a second, i was her and I felt humaniod in shape and even saw her arms. Amazing i thought. She acted like she had commited a mistake and was "kicking herself" type of expression. A few minutes later the top of my head seems to start having hot sensation of energy flowing through it and suddenly i have another flash and this time I AM HER for about 4 to 5 seconds. When i start seeing my normal vision again i hear her being frustrated and upset that she messed up big time. She didn't want me to see that! I was in her shoes for a second time and i had such expansive thoughts! Super complicated thoughts that even today i cannot make sense of and were completely unhuman. Thats when i started refering to her as a uber human type. The thoughts were so profound and knowledgeable that it would take a month to render such a complex idea. I cannot imagine these people as having two arms, two legs, and one head. Whatever they are they are unlikely to be related to humans.

4 - Non-Linear planners
They do not think nor act nor plan like us. After she showed me how to understand a psyche and so many other things. I started to notice developing patterns and with my higher mind now within my control (well almost back then) i started becoming more and more suspicious that they were holding back information and i started to see lines of deception and psychological tricks, manipulative behaviors, pre-programmed responses in other contactee's, abductees/experiments, and consistency. Consistency of contactees and thier behavoirs and how they react and how the aliens "keep" them began to light serious warning signs about this whole phenomena. When i began to see evidence that she was indeed
1) Real
2) Semi-Corporeal
3) Had a consciousness seperate from my own.
4) Had a presence and observational abilities seperate from my own.
5) Intelligence.
6) Consistent tests passed.

I started to panic and became worried that i was being brought up to do something that might indeed not be in humanities best interest. And worse brought up in a blind fashion unable to observe what the agenda was nor it's final intended result.

More for later. Seems these thoughts turned into a rant all on thier own. ;D
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Good stuff Fore.

Do you remember your grey abductions at all? By that I mean, can you remember what happened during them, types of procedures, etc.?





No, i dont remember anything beyond what i assume was the begining.
I have had a nightmare since i was a tiny child (for sure less than 5 years old) of being in some kind of lab and im in a small chamber with two pistons; one above my head and one below me. In the distance i see my body immobile and a grey semi visible in the distance working on it. Then suddenly the pistons seem to start making this tiny space compress. If i think about it is maybe 12 inches or so between pistons. In the dream if i use my body as a reference point then i am tiny and seperated from my body. This dream causes me a huge amount of terror far beyond any nightmare...but I don't know why because i can't find anything terrifying about it.

I heard the advisor (her favorite title) describe the grey's in detail and said that a very long time ago when she first came to the earth and was being ?trained? that she worked with some greys and that she refused to ever work with them again. She said she did not like the way they do things. But she said not all of them are like that, just most. She also warned me not be a speciest. Every individual is different and she wouldn't judge me as a species, based on a thug she might meet on the street.

She detailed a couple of things. I don't have direct evidence nor have i observed this myself so, take it with a grain of salt on her word.

The Grey's use an instrument that is made of crystal or something technologically made. she said they use it to control the levitation of people. She said it can also be used to stun someone. She said they are psychic and have a moderate intelligence if you take her as a ruler. She said some of them use artificial telepathy and others natural telepahy.

They have many types of ships and some of these ships are equiped with a special (no word in english) "technology" that emits a blue beam of "hard light" and can cause whatever it shines on to phase-out slightly. This term "hard light" i used because that is the closest word definition that matches what she described. It doesn't follow the same properties that we think of when we think of "light" as in coming from a lightbulb. By the way she said this is how they abduct people without opening the window or land on the house and make a hole in the roof. Also she said when they walk through walls there should be a wisp of blue light that scatters. The other light type that she didn't describe in detail is a green light that holds an object in place. She said "it works" when i bothered her about details years ago. Off the top of my head i dont remember what else. Oh she said also that the ships they use are sometimes grown in space which she said they use an organic construction method that uses metals and microscopic growth in layers that builds the exterior and the rest. It's a lot of memories to sift through so it is easier if you ask something specific and see if i remember anything.

She wasn't the type of person to use the naming conventions that the people on earth like to use to describe aliens. As you have probably noticed she didn't even give her own people a name. Back a couple of years ago i read an article that she pushed me to read about a guy in australia who described his encounter with a pleiadian woman and another woman and that he got dna samples of the pleiadian woman. As i was reading it she was telling me details that weren't in the article such as what the other womans species looks like that the guy was describing.

She said those people used to occupy the earth in some small sections many years ago and she described them as having a humaniod shape but had brown skin that was thicker than ours (she showed me imagery in my mind) and that when they sweat they give out a thick liquid like honey (no it probably doesn't taste like it, yuck) She said they had predominantly black hair and thier eyes were like a human beings and hers but a bit bigger and the pupil covers almost to the edge. She said they used to be considered Gods in the old days on earth near egypt.

She said they used to be a unified people, until some war broke them up (she said something akin to a political stance / invasion / social problem). She kept repeating that these people, like that woman. have a very odd religion / belief system. A few years later I saw a similar article on some crappy website that showed a picture of what the guy described and the other woman looked exactly as she described she should. I don't remember clearly but i think she said they were sirians? Not sure at all.

The other beings she said something about were the insect type praying mantis. She said they were incredibly strong psychics (big incredible!). She didn't say much more about them but she spoke about them like they were unfriendly. ::) Oh wait, yeah she said they could make you think you were looking at something else even if you stared directly at them.

She showed me imagery of several beings and what their minds feel like, that she has met or come across. This was after the remote viewing situation. She showed me a being who looks like a grey except they have orange skin and red eyes. Not good vibes. Then there was some others beings which could be considered something akin to a tarantuala but they have a different body configuration (Not Humanoid). She said those are better left alone and they dont think in a humanoid way or have humaniod values and she showed me a memory of hers of what one of these things thinks like. In the brief second she showed me a mind like that suddenly i saw things in a strange way. It didn't seem wrong to kill or do other things immoral....it was strange it was like suddenly for a second i felt a memory of a mind that didn't share a feelings orientated psyche but a goal orientated psyche and i can't even make sense of it's pattern of thought but it was very alien. For a second the things that made me human didn't seem to make sense and it was a profound insight to experience such a mind. She had a conversation with me that i was mistaken if i thought there was a universal moral ground existing out there.

The last thing she did before she closed that conversation was that she let me see her mind again but on her terms. She showed me with her mind what places there were out there. Like a mental map of your house and whats nearby, except that it was her mind and a map of places she knew about. Curiously, she thought our world was like a backwater planet with hick country farmers. I counted about 160 to 200 worlds that had life and only 4 or 5 worlds she considered "paradise planets" in her thoughts. She is a very curious woman. Hope this answered some questions.

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« Reply #5 on Feb 5, 2007, 2:31am »

Fascinating stuff. When is the 20year break over?
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« Reply #6 on Feb 5, 2007, 3:18am »

The contract ended in Aug 2003 i believe. The 20 years break should end in a long while. She said she would try to visit every couple of years for 2 or 3 days. In her relay of information she said she was going to a world with some advanced people that there is no word in English for their title but it comes close to "master" or "Master of an Art" (psychic training camp.) She said for her it was about a day away but i have no clue how far you could go in a day in her concepts of distance.

She said she didn't know how to manifest physically fully because it's not an easy thing to do; to come down through the levels to where she could shake my hand. She told me in the past some of her people a very long time ago would come to the earth and they would descend to our level and become whole physical beings with limited psychic abilities like us but that alot of them did not know how to go back up into their normal form of being (which is semi-physical). She said that if she came as a Semi-physical person and stayed for more than a day that her aura would probably kill me in no time. Going physical also makes their minds shrink she said.

She explained that there is a trigger that is in a human being that is supposed to protect the soul in case there is a sudden tragic accident. She said it works in both directions of pain or pleasure but it in some cases can be tripped by a strong external psychic presence. If the trigger is a pain one it could cause the interconnect to disconnect (read: what attaches our non-physical to our physical...like a chakra sub-system) and that would result in death. If it is tripped but not completely it causes unconsciousness.

She said it was also able to be tripped in incredible pleasure (i wouldn't know lol). She said if she came as she was then i would die in no time from her spiritual/psychic wake.

She described going down the levels and descending to my state of being as being incredibly uncomfortable. She said it was like being underwater several feet. She said if she stayed too long (varies from a day for some to maybe weeks for others.) that she would be unable to reach her semi-physical beingness again. She said this has happened before with people being stuck in our level of physicality.

I assume there is some truth to this because when i ease into a low state of psychic awareness it feels uncomfortable and i have gotten used to it only after many years since she left. I can't believe people think or live this way though since it feels so limiting. It's hard to get used to not "knowing". I can keep tabs on my neighbors and what they are doing once i memorize their signature. Being turned off though is very disappointing. It's like the difference in living in a 3-D world and suddenly being forced to live in a 2-D world. Sorry if i sound strange but i would like to be open about my story lol.
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« Reply #7 on Feb 5, 2007, 7:47am »

Hi Fore,
Thanks for sharing all of this stuff!
Very interesting.
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« Reply #8 on Feb 5, 2007, 9:39am »

Don't worry about sounding strange or kooky. Believe it or not, you make alot of sense and on a paranormal forum, the discussions and topics can get strange.
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« Reply #9 on Feb 5, 2007, 5:45pm »

Hey that's true: this is a paranormal forum...
If any of the admin staff are reading this, shouldn't we start a section on "Contact / Encounters / Abductions" where all these threads would fit?
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« Reply #10 on Feb 6, 2007, 5:24am »

In the begining....


Just kidding, one day a couple of years ago. She was depressed that we were parting ways (and so was I) and I would not leave the issue rest, that I needed to see her otherwise I could not cooperate. One night amoungst those many nights during that time it seems she decided to show me the past. Prior to this she claimed that we had actually lived lives together but not on the earth (the last one about 3000 years ago accompanied with imagery). There was no way I would believe a claim that absurd. One night, without my knowledge I started to experience the past in a very odd way in....not a dream scape...but more of a very clean memory. I make no claims as to this being real but I have to throw in the towel in some segments and say that she showed me memories of events that did take place and were verifyable by people who were there.

The memories are about three consecutive memories played on after the other. I don't remember the sequence of memories clearly so forgive me for not typing them up in sequence.

I was in a waiting room realm, and I was teaching these two very young spiritual beings. Everything was non-physical and nothing like walls or a floors could be seen. These two girl-like beings who look like meta-physical hour-glass's are speaking to me. To explain to them why (fuzzy) do the other spirits act this way or that way. I started explaining to them that they are acting that way because....ect. Then the two girls understand and they say they are going to play or something to that equivalent. No one is speaking any language in this realm it is all straight to each others thoughts. The little girl i remember which was one of two, who was like a torch hour-glass of orange and yellow light. They went "out" and I thought I was so depressed and i wanted to sit down. I started to make the action to sit (no we don't get tired there) and immediately an energetic chair came out of the "floor". And I started peering out through the energetic "walls" into the entire realm. I started to think of some trauma that occured in the past to me about 400 or 500 spirit equivalent years. (thats about a couple of months or about 3 or 5 lives back)

Then I feel one of the higher spirits come to the room and tell me that the two little ones were caught playing games on another spirit. The "invisible light" entity's are like "managers" or "case managers" or "stewards". He showed me in my minds eye the two little girls playing tricks on some older entity and running away. I told the "invisible light" with respect that I would take responsibility for thier actions and to not punish them, that if he wanted he could put the....weight or "bad karma" on me and I would live it for them.
He told me they had already been born and were going through their lives already. I thought with fondness that I hoped I would get to be born and live part of my life with them. (why? I have no Idea) I asked him what kind of lives would they live. He told me he could not share with me the personal information of another entity. (They are strict about privacy on the otherside of life.)

The invisible light case manager told me that he had already collected a couple of lives within the specification of the council's recommendation. He said he would show me the life chart so I could agree to one of the lives. I was really not caring what he was going to show me but I might as well go through the motions*. The first chart I look at is my current life. I look at what he is holding energetically (like a pad equivalent) and in my mind I see the profile of this life and I see it is a life on a planet (this was the earth, no names though) and I start sensing the time which is the 1980's and I grimace mentally because it was a very low technology planet that was primitive*. I start thinking about other worlds that were far more comfortable and better and I keep looking at the chart mentally and I see that the life is a very (excuse the term) crappy one for the first 21ish 22ish years. I see that I will meet the advisor/caretaker and I see her role. Then I start looking through the lifetime and seeing the landmarks as I age. I see at age 26 that I meet my wife and that she is angry with me for the first year and that we have three children. Then I see the contact event that is a typical event that occurs on such lowly worlds at this point in their evolution. I see that this world finds out that there are others besides them living. This happens somewhere around 26 through 28 at the most.

Then I see my 40's since nothing else is interesting. Then go through the years quickly and somewhere between (fuzzy) 50's and 78 I see the possible chance to live to the age of 400 or so. I ask the invisible light case manager about this. He states that i will be approached by a man representing a group that is doing (fuzzy) ?genetic manipulation? and that he will only come to me once and that if i decide to then i can live up to 400 and can use the life for whatever I want. I go over again, the overall life and think not a very exciting life and an ordinary with some specialness lifetime mate. (we are very heady with our real minds! Don't blame me for my thoughts!) I tell him I will take his first offer. (I honestly don't care, to spiritual beings lives are like a suit, and a cheap one at that.)

He tells me I should take a look at the others if I want. He tells me I should see something first. He opens a portal to my right and he says I can step through but I should not take long because there is a negative being on the other side who will detect the portal opening. I say okay, and I step through. I see in front of me my future mom pregnant with my body about 5 or 6 months along. Suddenly, while staring at her I call out to her: "MOMMY!" and I am surprised that I couldn't control the impulse. She seems to look down at her belly and seems amazed. I see her and the room around her and i see her female friend come around the doorway into the room and my mom does not tell her.

Suddenly I sense an evil presence nearing. The invisible light entity tells me, I should step back through the portal because the enitity is near. I take every second I can to see my mom because im wondering what elicited my response (fuzzy). Then the case manager says i must step back because he must close it before it arrives and not to look at the entity. As I step backwards through the portal, I see out of the edge of my vision what looks like a grey/white cloud of evil intent that is very intense. My mother and her friend seem to be unaware of this entity. The creature reaches out for me and just slightly touches me, but the invisible light case manager closes the portal on it. I "look" at the case manager and tell him this life is okay. He says to wait a moment then while he prepares for it.

In the last few seconds of this memory, I look around the realm out into the distance and wonder. I turn my head far to the right or left (fuzzy) and from the edge of my vision I see the souls and lines of people in the distance entering a bright light. And I wonder in the condition that I am in (lacking faith and trust) if I will ever get the chance to (fuzzy) ?go there? Then, I look up and I start to feel the very old ones who are hundreads of millions to billions of years old. I think how I wish I could spend time speaking to one of them. I wonder if they would be able to understand me or if I would be able to understand them because they are so evolved that they don't even think like us anymore. Then I black out.

Epilogue for part 1 :P :
The time in this realm (the waiting room) is very subjective. The entire memory felt from that mindset to be both 30 seconds long and 1 full day. Time is very subjective there not so solid like it is here.

I suppose if this chart was a real memory, which I believe it to be, it is probably foretelling an event that will affect me in the future and hence the world. If I dont find my wife in the next twelve months then i wouldn't worry about anything, hehe. There are probably more than 3 memories but I never counted so excuse the inaccuracy. They are played back jointed together but they seem to deal with different sections of time.

* I asked my mom if anything odd ever happened to me when she was pregnant with me. Being the ever skeptic and wondering if she was fooling me (The Advisor) I didn't contaminate her so I could know the truth and didn't allude to anything. After a few minutes of thinking she said that when she was pregnant with me about 3 or 5 months along she heard me suddenly yell out "MOMMY". When I asked her from which direction did it come from she said she thought the word came from inside her. Then I asked her to describe the room around her when she heard it and if anyone was with her. She said after a while that the room was brown wood and fake wood (like what i saw) and that there was a woman who was helping her with chores around the house. A close family friend when she was living in my native country. So I can't sit on the fence on this one and say it didn't happen because it seems it did to my surprise.

Part 2 to be continued!
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« Reply #11 on Feb 6, 2007, 9:36am »

Grey Technology and Secrets with a dash of general alien habitats.

I asked her many times what the whole cow abduction thing was about and she wouldn't tell me, I had to prod her a few times over the next month so she would spill the beans. She said the things I saw on tv about cows being abducted was about several things. I'm going to smash together many conversations so it makes sense.

She said the Grey's are taking the cows most to some of the time. She said they need the parts of animals to make artificial wombs. I asked her what does a womb look like? She responded by showing me the same images in my mind a couple of times till I got what i was seeing. It looks like an ark upside down of a strange purple color made from a material I dont recognize. She said the blood is used to make a sac (sp?) and that sac is surrounded by tissues they take from the cow to make an artificial womb Amoung other things. I prodded her on that but she would just say "amoung other things" (curious woman). She said the babies are suspended without touching the sides of the upside down arc. When i asked her how does it keep it suspended she completely ignored me. She went on to say most of these things are kept in a base and in mountain ranges where they habitate. She the, showed me a couple of the arcs' close together in my mind in what looked like a cave or somewhere poorly lit.

I asked her: mountains?(mix in a few words of doubt here and there on my part) She said that most aliens stay in the mountain habitats. I remembered a story I saw a long time ago on unexplained mysteries and there was one episode like 10 years before we are having this conversation, where some ufo's were spotted going next to mountains and disapearing. She said if they aren't just phasing out and leaving or doing what they were doing she said it was probably they were entering the habitats.

Note: I use the word habitat she used the word "barracks" that is the closet word.

So i ask her the obvious (to me) how can they dig up all the ground in a mountain (and before i finish asking) she starts saying that they use the phasing out technology to create habitats inside of mountains in an out of phase state. I ask her wouldn't they have to contend with walking through matter constantly? (she told me there were limitation on thier personal devices of three feet of matter in any direction.)

She explained that the aliens would phase out further than she does and create entire rooms. She said if a hiker for instance was on the slope of a mountain; then if they saw the ufo go over a ridge and looked over the ridge in the next few seconds. They would see nothing but a normal mountain. She said it is normal that they comminicate when they are going towards the mountains ahead of time and they phase temporarily part of the entrance and the ship enters without slowing down much and phase back out quickly.
She said some legends of cities underground were done by more advanced races who put barriers in place to keep out visitors and that no one could enter without phasing. (off the top of my head i think it was shangrila that someone sent a link in yahoo. I don't remember clearly. I think it was.)

So i asked her if phasing is how they live in mountains wouldn't someone eventually find these places when they abandoned them? She said no because they usually would take steps to hide it or take it apart. She then said something really off the wall which sort of surprised me. She said she or a grey could put a room in our house that only she and they could enter and even watch everything that was happening and I wouldn't notice there was an extra room to the house. She said I could imagine it like an observation room that doesn't exist to those being viewed.

In a yahoo chatroom someone linked to a site they wanted me to look at and it said something about under water bases and she said that they know they exist but they are controlled by other aliens who arent them. She said sometimes they share and sometimes they dont. She said there was also other bases and she started pointing them out but one she said was in the middle of nowhere east of some cities in the middle of nowhere in the sort of to the left of central russia. The other one she said that a lot of ufo's tend to pass by was a base in the artic which she said if you take a ship and go north from the center of the atlantic you would end up at that base if you hang a left at the end. (she was intentionally vague but I had a globe in my hands.) The other she said was off of equador or chile (my latin american geography is bad and she was the one guiding me and not saying the names.)

I asked her if there were others like her living in bases but she cut the conversation short and said a simple yes. She then took the topic to clones. She said there were very nasty "others" (generally human unfriendly aliens alligned together) who she said forcibly took peoples like her and cloned them and put devices in thier heads so that they were taught to spout thier propaganda and that if the clones did not obey the devices would cause them pain.

She said if i ever heard of people like her (she hinted at these years she was humanoid but didn't outright say it) who all looked extremely similar then it was likely they were clones. She said the way her people make babies is thin by human standard of mating but that they dont all look alike (thats an entire post in itself). She went on to say that these clones would very likely play a role in the future encounters people were going to have if "the others" came first and presented themselves to the world (which she said near the turn of 2000 was something that troubled them that the others would likely do). Thats an entire post in itself also.

Oh i just remembered. On the same topic I asked her how their ships can move so fast without making noise like a sonic boom. She said that the ship usually use a set of fields around the ship that do specific jobs. She said one of the fields makes the ship move and then others shield from sound and that others tear the air in front of the ship and recombine it behind the ship. She said they could go from florida to LA in about three minutes. but she said that was in the atmosphere and if they wanted to travel that fast they would go out of it. She said if they exceeded a certain limit the field would stop working and that was not good. I think she said the limit was around 32k mph .

I was looking, not too long ago, for a photo of a pleiadian to see what they look like (i couldn't spell the name and i probably still can't) to see if that is what she looks like when i see her with my second sight (quick flashes). And I saw some photos of semjase and billy meier and i noticed quick that the woman billy spoke with had exactly the same clothes and look as her. Not her face though. Would be funny if she was that pretty, you can't imagine the jokes i've made about her ;D. That wouldn't feel right to diss such a woman lol.

Anyway, in one of the media files on the site they describe one of meier's contact as saying they were lowering one of the fields (i think that was the word) and sure enough like she said lots of noise came out. Thats why i dont think the guy is a liar. Im pretty sure they let him know they wanted him to plant fake evidence with the hope to give a plausible denial to people that they exist. This way she said people aren't forced into a corner into accepting it. Bad things happen if she was right.
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I have only profiled* over the years that she was with me. She seemed to have a future sight that I can be sure of to about 3 years into the future. I suspect that she could see further but it seems she was careful to keep me uninformed as to what that extent of future sight of hers was. Mine is far more limited. In my full state active state I can only see about 2 years to 1.5 years with 99% accuracy down to the day and hour. In my current inactive state my accuracy is mediocre at about 60% to 90% for 1 years time to as low as 3 months. So I can't verify what she says is true but I can feel the overtones of events and how the general psychic constants** seem to be changing.

*To Profile: Figuring out the limitations someone has or doesn't have as it pertains to their perceptions, consciousness and awareness.

**Psychic constants: Background patterns that hardly ever change unless there is a very significant event rippling both forewards and backwards in time from the point of the event occurring. Think of it like background radiation or gravity. If it changes you would notice.
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The Future Arrivals: :o

She began telling me about the future roughly around 1999 or 2000. "The others" she said were going to begin their plans to come to the earth openly and she said they were worried. I humored her and i asked her what was bad about aliens showing themselves? She said that "The Others" didn't care about people they just cared about controlling. She said many things about them but i'll try to put it in chronological order and the arguments she made to me about the others. These are several conversations put together for sake of clarity. They should not be taken lightly nor too seriously but should be taken with a grain of warning in my opinion.

Firstly, she had me understand that part of the conspiracy theories were true (how cliche). She said there was a group of people who had power and we not elected who decided a long time ago that a crisis was coming that they could not control (im paraphrasing her words for simplicity). She said that they made plans long ago to build installations underground because there was a percieved threat to them and that they were building "just to be safe".

She said it started out back in the 1860->1862 that the two people who started a group to establish research for ufo's and aliens. She said back then these few men did not have any authority over anything but were a small project started to study the phenomena. She said around the 1900's they gained importance and were granted a budget and became a small department and were in charge of budgets (small time) to organize the "structures" (i have no clue what she meant but thats what she said) to more easily collect information about aliens. She said from here on they grew rapidly and already had a good wealth of information but very little technology. She said in the early 1920's different groups like hers made contact but were rejected and that the different aliens started revealing informations about themselves. She said this made the now established but mildly influencial department/group/affair department VERY paranoid (I have no clue how to put that idea into a word that would fit).

She didn't explain why but she said they became very concerned that they were not going to survive and they began building in excess underground installations. She said they were very paranoid about aliens. She said that some of the groups revealed to them the future and this was why. She said by the time the so called famous 1947 roswell incident happened. They were already well established and had overiding control over the branches of military. She said several things about the controlling group changed and they became desperate to gather technology and make deals to advance both the public and the non-public sciences. She said they for example couldn't land anywhere on the earth without being detected almost immediately and that there was very few places they could arrive without the phasing technology that kept them protected, She said there should be stories about the armed forces intercepting arrivals very quickly (yeah i looked and there was.)

She said that by the 1940's the non-public science was already more advanced in ideas than the public was in the 1960's onward. She said as time passed the Groups like hers and "the others" began to spy on them in the underground sessions they had and kept pace with the knowledge that was being retrieved. She said the only reason she revealed technologies to me was because it was already knowledge that was known on the earth and in the non-public sciences. She said there was nothing to lose by showing me what was already known. She said the cabal (she changes the title at this point.) would meet underground and in the 80's were planning what was known as artificial terror. She said they wanted to play "the game of the gods" (why she called it that I dont know).

She described this "game" as a game that many races including hers and her faction had played with humanity. She said in the old days on earth they would even fight openly (yeah right!) between them and "the others". She said "the others" (greys/pleiadeans/whatever) would implant and manipulate thoughts and start religions and create wars over them to decimate mankind so that they would not evolve beyond a certain point. She said her groups way of thinking was to introduce a counter movement to spread knowledge and stabalize the religions or impart knowledge to dismantle "the others" plans. She said there was a lot of instability with these fights and the people on the earth became very "fractured" from the constant introduction of ideas and counter ideas.

She said eventually "the others" and Thier groups were stopped by a third group of aliens. (she does not describe them in detail or otherwise.) She said the third group did not care for either side but wanted them to stop interfering. She said this group was very powerful and that even if the two sides went against the third group they would not win. She made it sound like they didn't have a hope in hell united, let alone apart. She said they both agreed to an uneasy peace that they would not interfere. She said this stopped the interference to a large part.

"The others" still kept starting movements in very small ways to keep people at war. Then her people's side would go to the third group and the third group would allow interference from their side and they would start a counter movement. She said this slowed down the idealogy war but did not stop it. She said the earth was already very divided in many ideals and fronts but both generally obeyed.

She said the bible was one example of being edited and re-edited (i dont believe her on this but i used to.). She said that around the time she was telling me this the amnesty bewteen both factions was ending. I asked her why amnesty if I thought that was used only for immigrants. She insisted on the word amnesty (I looked it up in the dictionary since i didn't know what it mean't :shrug:). She said that once the amnesty was lifted that "the others" would immediately go back to trying to control mankind. She said they were worried about what might happen if "The Others" came first to humanity. She said they were pretty sure that they would. They were preparing themselves and alot of them were leaving because she said a war between them was likely to happen.

She said in the future many things would happen. Which I will post in another post rather than this one so I dont break the long a$$ "truth" she left me with.

First, She said "the others" would go back out into space and make an entrance, as if they were not here already. She said this would allow them a clean entrance and blame the rest of the past on aliens from her faction. She said they would probably go and pick the people amoung them who were human-like. She said this is what abductions and grey experimentation was trying to bring about for a long time (thousand of years into the past when a couple of races handed us as a project down or abandoned us.). She said the human-like beings were either slaves who would talk very little or geniune people of hers and others who look like humans who had an agenda to control humanity and stop it's progress.

She said the others were itching to stop our progress because at a certain point we would be acknowledge-able as indpendent beings. She said on her world about 60% of her kind thought of human kind as an experiment to be observed but generally do not care one way or the other. Roughly, 30% constitute "the others" mentality. While she said, the minority consititute her point of view 14%).

She said when "the others" arrived they would do what would look like miracles to mankind (of this she kept talking about) and they expected the people on earth to quickly believe "the others". She said "the others" were likely going to present themselves as being Gods. She said this would lead to human beings accepting them as the leaders. She said that because "the others" would very likely choose human-like front men with their powers intact. The genetic manipulations both factions had commited to, a long time ago, would cause human beings to give in very quickly. She said a long time ago when other races had lost interest in humanity they picked up and modified humanity to be planet squaters (my word interpretation but pretty accurate.).

She said the reason that human beings become very easy to manipulate when they see a pretty person is because they are pre-programmed genetically to have this behavior. She said this was an easy trick back when people were very primitive and they wanted workers and slaves. She said that before those projects were ended that the aliens modified the human beings more to create a very xenophobic response to other aliens. And that human beings were given the cultural push to breed at will. She said this way both factions past founders could prevent other aliens from occupying the earth in the open; nor the human beings from helping them. She said that some of that has degraded over time but it was still a dominant trait. That was the reason some aliens use greys as front men because it is less problamatic and they are humaniod enough to be accepted when they continue the experiments on mankind.

The next interesting bit she said was that "the others" needed contactees for the future. She said some of the grey experiments are about how human beings react to certain situations and that the greys were looking for weaknesses and lessening the possiblity that the human beings they choose will have conflict against them when they bring about their "arrival". She said some of those human beings would be "go-betweens" in the contacts with those who follow "the others". She said "the others" needed a close enough....spokesman...to represent thier interest and that the association with these beings would elevate these human beings to a higher status. She said that is why alot of "the others" choose human beings who will readily accept a title or illusions of granduer and are usually told they are "the one".

She said that both sides could be accused of this since they both engage in a little bit of everything. Hers supposed alot less (yeah right!). She said "the others" would institue a government where there would be three tiers of contactee's; the local, regional, and the special few. She said the locals would be in charge of their smaller communities while the regional would have limited contact with the aliens directly and the special few are supposed to be less than 25 (fuzzy) who would have to represent thier slab of the world. She said "the others" would divide the world up into sections and each "special contactee" would be in charge of it. She said "the special contactees" would also have very high abilities endowed to them (pet slaves anyone?)

She said the first thing "the others" would do is stop progressing technology. She said they would introduce their own technology to produce energy but that it would be off limits to human beings and that they would fix alot of the earths problems as long as they could coerce power from the former leaders of the governments. She said the few skeptical human beings would probably by that time be thinking they are "gods" because they would take the time to display their powers which she said is common knowledge to everyone except human beings who don't see those things.

She goes on to explain to me how miracles (or seemingly miracles) are performed and that this will impress many. This is where she warned me about not listening to "what they say" but "seeing what they do" if I have doubts as to which side they represent. She said any alien could say anything. She said actions though would easily reveal their true intent. She said "the others" would quickly order the executions of millions of people world wide who would not obey them because of religion. She said since these people on earth who would believe them would think they are "doing the right thing" and have the backing of "the Gods" they would turn in their neighbors to be executed. She said that if people knew the future they would not want any part of it. She explained that the reason why "the others" will win over so many is because they will give people what they want and create a new super religion. She said the religion will unite pieces of old religions and that they will lie and say they are the Gods of the old religions and that they will create a new one and even spin lies that they created mankind.

She said people won't notice it but they will be tricked into alot of manipulative situations. And she said if people accept them then there is nothing they can do except watch. Im sure I left out some things.

She said this is why (at the time they were racing to "prepare") to present themselves anyway. She said because her people were the minority that they would not have much of a chance in changing the minds of people but she said they would try. She said at the time that there was a big debate as to whether her faction should come in first or second, because they did not know which would yield the best results. She said when her faction did come that they would show up shortly after the others most likely, and they would present to the world their side of the case. She said they would show mankind what they could of how the miracles were happening and how they came to be and even perform for them to see. That they were not miracles, but common understandings and knowledge shared by both sides.

She said her faction would also reveal information and the truth to people at this time but the general consensus was that the human beings of the future would be unlikely to believe them. I asked her why "the others" would let them make their case? She said because of the third group they would have to allow it or the third group would probably come in quickly and put them in their place or worse. (Squish)

She said that they had a growing fear, that if the people of the earth did side with her faction. That then "the others" in spite, would burn the earth while leaving. She said this was a likely possibility.

Background info.

She said alot of things that lead up to this is volcanoes all going off at the same time in some area's. Many earthquakes in places where there had never been before. She described the future from that time (1999-2000) to be getting worse and worse weather wise as the years progress (seems to be accurate on that one). She said that the cabal (that I described at the beggining) was trying to "play the game of the gods" and making artificial terror to force people to give up their freedoms. She said there would be rumors of wars in the future and that there would be a very big war she called "the war of contracts". Those things I'll write down next because my hands are very tired.

That woman talks too much LOL.
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« Reply #14 on Feb 8, 2007, 9:19am »

In addition to that last post i would like to make an addition while I was correcting errors.

She mentioned that the reason alot of contactees got messages that they would be taken from the earth was because the current route according to the future is basically compounding problems one after the other. She said that if they did come to take people there would be no notice and the point was not to save people and take them somewhere else forever. But to take them while the situations get worse and to bring them back to whats left and be given some simple tools to pick up from what is left at that point. To piece together the pieces.

Im definetely no fan of this myth and think it is another ploy to get people to cooperate with them. I personally, honestly, dont believe we have many choices in the future if you were to believe the dark picture she painted. I sure as hell would not step on one of their ships to probably be turned into mince meat shortly afterwards. Unless I had some significant proof that their agenda wasn't to decieve or destroy.
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Some people mistake compassion for weakness or think of it as giving in. It is neither. It takes a much stronger person to show that compassion while at the same time, doing their job.
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