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Dan Burisch / Will Uhouse Googletalk « Thread Started on Nov 12, 2006, 2:24am »
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Dr's Dan Burisch & Marcia McDowell talk with Mr. Will Uhouse engineer and physics specialist, (son of famous Area-51 engineering scientist who worked with a J-Rod & consulted on scientific projects) talk candidly about what it was like to work in secret projects, and interact with extraterrestrials
Four minute video excerpt taken from recent 2 hour discussion in Las Vegas....interesting preview of things to come
Marcia has strongly suggested that I keep this short, for health reasons, and so I will try. As she often says, when I say I will try, "Yes, you are trying!"
At the time just before closure, the one (of only two at the moment) functioning "Looking Glass" (LG) Units demonstrated the following statistical leanings toward 1 of 2 possible time paths (T1 {present} v T2 {catastrophic}):
For those who have either heard my interviews, seen the first DVD ("Tell the World"), or have managed to find my actual words amidst the ramblings of alarmists whom often declare they must "know better" because some anonymous email says so...
You may have come across my description of the "flicking alternation" between images and sound of the two timelines T1/T2), at such a speed only finally being separated by computer, and amid the noise of statistically insignificant imagery/sound possibilities. At the time of the closure of the "Alice's glass" (as they were nicknamed), there were (had been) no "other" Looking Glasses which supplied a differing appraisal of the situation. I base this opinion on my previous direct access to individuals involved in the Treaties, discussions with the physicists and engineers involved with the LG, and previous access to oversight-level reports detailing the full range of operations as they dealt with LG and Treaties.
The second DVD will include a discussion between Will Uhouse and myself. Will is, of course, the son of Bill Uhouse, the engineer who assisted operations at various locations, and who most famously (as I understand) worked with a P+45K J-Rod, in the back-engineering of both propulsion and navigating/avionics of craft used by that "kind." It so happens that the J-Rod with whom he was privileged to interact, had been a flight member of the same craft of the J-Rod with whom I was privileged to interact (1953 "Kingman crash"). He has told his account, I have told mine, and we were all privileged to hear further backgroud from his son, Will.
Keeping on track here...
Will (Bill's son) had witnessed the use of a Looking Glass precursor model in the 1970's (called...of all things..."Looking Glass" ) which he described in good detail during our videotaped conversation. The successive miniaturization (over decades) of the components to the LG, was no surprise to me as I had read that such occurred, in Treaty-related documents. Hearing the account, though, was a very special thing! For instance, hearing about the original size of the internal drum mechanism was quite an eye-opener for me. I also confess that I immediately felt quite a friendship with Will (and his wife, Teri), from the time of our first meeting, and I do feel that the immediate nature had to do with the direct and familial exposure to those J-Rod's. I regard Will (his Father, Bill) and Teri in very high esteem.
(This interview, recaptured in greater detail than the first between he and I {which had been secreted from us by an unethical videographer}, will be included in the eventual free "mass tape" gifts to professional journalists and qualified researchers.)
That said...
From the inception of my knowledge about the findings from "Looking Glass" and the associated expectancy of a time of destiny (a period in which we are living now), to the time I was given permission to speak of it, and finally to this sacred night, I have only recounted what I knew to be true. To do less, would have been rightly regarded as a crime against humanity. Truth being told, every one of you has the ultimate right to know. (I do not have the power to make upstanding and honorable people of mice, even if some of those people were ranking members of Majestic and the Committee of the Majority.)
I should state that I have only ever spoken about 1 possible global catastrophe, that one (T2/with less than one in five probability @ 0.85 Confidence), save my speaking about ecological issues now also facing us all. During my time of direct interaction with several people on the internet, I have heard what I was accounting, changed by a few people, to suit other philosophical perspectives, religious orientations, and folklore. I have, to the best of my ability, been very careful with my wording. Why? Would you demand that I speak/write with less care, when the issues about which I have spoken involve every one of us? I believe that the vast majority would have requested that I would do what I did (and to a certain extent still do): just tell my experiences. I have not felt free enough to explore many other accounts as I was given very defined parameters, such parameters fitting very neatly with my perspective about what the majority would rightly demand.
The possible catastrophe of T2, was NEVER presented to me as purposive culling by individuals for whom I "operated." It was cast that way (as a culling) in respect to what the P+45K J-Rods and Illuminati wanted. The culling (under that condition) was presented as the pressed will of the P+45K's to justify their own history. Further, it was NEVER imbued with such religiosity as to be called anything like "THE WARNING." Such terminology implies that there is a person or thing "performing" a warning. I have said that I was presented with a message...both of great hope and great warning. (The J-Rod's presence and the possibility of the T2 compose the meaning of great warning. The low probability of T2, the fact that we have the situation in our hands to control, and the information we learned about humanity continuing in T1 (ex. a possible new Renaissance of thought, spirituality, and technological benefits comprises the message of great hope.) I am clarifying the meaning here, as I ama ware there are alarmists characterizing the term "Warning" in a widely differing sense than provided in my account. In every instance I read about or heard about the T1 versus T2 timelines, it was in the context of a natural (physical) event, with defined periodicity. In many instances where I read about or heard about the T1 versus T2 timelines, the T1 timeline (the one where we find ourselves now), presented the condition of ecological catastrophe. (Such is the meaning of my saying, "Either way, we will have no free lunch.") The term Pole Shift, as being applied by some, is also different than what I described. The T2 "pole shift" is both a geophysical and geomagnetic pole shift. The earth has undergone many geomagnetic pole shifts. In the following array, the upper image shows the core of earth acting as a magnet, the middle image demonstrates current data regarding how geomagnetic poles have "flipped", over massive expanses of time, and the third image is that of the Atlantic Conveyor system...a salty versus less salty "draw"...which could be halted as a result of increasing sea height from ice melting (and other contributing factors). Should that conveyor stop or very significantly slow, the climate could undergo radical changes, including radically changing the climate of Europe, as well as other locations. It appears from several datasets, that we may be undergoing the early stages of a "geomagnetic pole flip" now. The results of such? The result is a possible period of dangerous exposure to solar radiation (a pause to protection) which could amount to a huge increase in cancer rates. The upside of it would be possible multiple locations (globally) of observable aurora. Included in the downside would be the cancer rates, and the unlikely possibility that the dynamo could permanently shut down. The result of a permanent shutdown may be appropriately modeled by the present conditions on Mars, where the possibility that the dynamo may have shut down and the Planet's atmosphere may have been 'blown off' and into space. Save the highly unlikely permanent shutdown, does that kind of pole shift equate to what I was speaking about: T2? No. A geophysical pole shift (with an accompanied geomagnetic pole shift) was described as the progenitor of the split in humanity, related to an unusual solar burst, modulated by our position with respect to an energetic area on the galactic plane, and magnified by certain currently unpermitted technologies (stargates and LG machinery). It would be from that event, that we would ultimately become become short J-Rods and tall Orion Beings.
So, if you hear people equating a geomagnetic pole flip as causing T2, they are incorrect.
Have there been contingencies worked out if T2 happens? We have them, none are good. We have moved a huge genetic and technological storehouse off planet (Moon) and have instituted more than one on earth (ex. Svalbard / Svalbard globale frøhvelv). The catch? We did so, as well, according to the J-Rod's history, and we do so (according to LG) in both cases: T1 and T2. Move the world's population en masse? Such would be impractical and could actually (if you can believe it) make matters much worse, with a larger death toll than if we would ride it out with little direct warnings. It is my firm conviction that such a transition from T1 to T2 WILL NOT OCCUR. That said...as written above...no free lunch.
There continues to persist nonsense claims that I haven't presented "both sides" of the coin. Both sides (T1 versus T2) were explained in "Tell the Word." Even my last "in debriefing" words in the "Tell the World" DVD included a statement about the possible T2 catastrophe. I also spoke to it, at the very end of the DVD, where I was audio recorded debriefing my team this last May. As both sides of the coin were explained, given the totality of the information available to me, I did exactly as I said...from word one...that I would do: present the facts. I would submit that, given I spoke about both sides (even in multiple media interviews) and as others know that, those same "others" intend on dwelling on the low likelihood of disaster. Given they have had neither direct access to the data I was privy nor the experiences within Majestic, I would suggest they are presenting an agenda different than just accounting experiences and balancing "positive" versus "negative" probabilities of outcome. Given the findings of Quantum Physics and Consciousness studies, that we determine our reality (and together with the favorable present conditions for avoidance of T2), I would also suggest that such negative thinking (and flying in the face of expert witness testimony) is the wrong thing to do. Additionally, the concept of "unity" doesn't mean the acceptance of appeasement to negative individuals, nor should such ephemeral "favorable speak" ever be purchased at the cost of telling the plain truth. Unity has to be honest, just as true justice must be blind. The plain facts, the plain truth, is neither for sale by money nor for the receipt of personal acceptance by any group, let alone any one. I was pressured to tell only the positive by some and only the negative by others. Some press for either, under the guise of presenting balance. I was told to tell the truth. I did. I find that those not bearing such a burden, such a responsibility to everybody to tell the truth/facts, show themselves as much more free in linguistic latitude.
This all being said, ladies and gentlemen, carpe diem.
We're going to be fine...and survive or perish...we will do so as ONE HUMANITY.
I will be returning to the Eagles Forum in a couple days and will pick up on anything in other threads, here, at that time. The next couple days are...how should I say...filled.
May God Bless and keep you all,
Dan
P.S. I have been asked in PM if my comments about cancer treatment deal with the application of Rife technology, as Rife used it? No.
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Re: Dan Burisch / Will Uhouse Googletalk « Reply #3 on Jan 27, 2007, 4:39am »
No wurries, Nick.. I haven't cross-posted anything since then... that particular post was pertinent as per the vid but I will keep my eye out for any new revelations
Mateo: "I heard u say in a video interview that there was a recent "handing over of rings between two secret societies" or something to that effect, would you mind elaborating on that a little bit?"
Dan Burisch: No problem! I recently corresponded with another person on that issue...about the secret societies...so we'll start with a partial quote, from me, from that letter...
"Actually, a secret society didn't spawn Majestic. Majestic was created by President Truman, in concert with private negotiations for the National Security Act of 1947. I have to apologize, as I do know the actual origin of the name "Majestic," but I am under contract with Marcia not to reveal that piece of inside information until she captures it on film or in my biography, which people are hurriedly arranging...the more hurriedly, the sicker I become! ... ... ... ... ... Majestic then became inculcated within Masonry as a result of President Truman's relationship within the elite of the Reformed Scottish Rite. They, the elite within Masonry (Scottish and York) were aware of the events of 1947 and then came to the realization that the creatures encountered in the early 1940's were actually time travelers, not aliens of non-human origin. Given his position as President, and his being within the "rite within the rites" of Masonry, the Masonic power structure naturally worked with him to pick members who were open, secret, or non-Masonic members of agreeable nature. At first, it was nearly all military...as the restructuring of the American military was then in full force- post WW2 and moving toward S.E. Asia- and so the management of the ET issue was ensconced within close military circles, while the Masonic elite watched. Soon treaties became involved, and the Masonic elite wasted no time to become the central diplomatic players, as they had many connections (worldwide as well as historic ones in America)."
Okay...here are the salient points, I think, from what RandB suggested from my previous comments, which I think cover the topic:
"3. What is the difference between the Maji and the illuminati?
The difference is found in the ratios of membership. The term Maji more applies to a specific group who were charged with the stewardship of the "e.t.-present human" coverup, as established by President Harry Truman, in 1947. The term Illuminati, as you are probably using it, is actually a misnomer (bastardized) for a group of wealthy (predominantly but not totally) Western Europeans, affiliated as a concretized business, political, familial version of Raubritters. They are dedicated to their own financial supremacy on earth, and many of which are elitist Luciferians.
That said...
Since 1947, have there been such Illuminati within the membership of the Maji? Yes. Several, during the time of the Committee of the Majority (1963-2002/3...it dribbled for while before it died! ). My own (very short) sojourn as a numbered member of the 12 (ahem...MJ9...), came as a result of an Illuminati member (ahem...MJ9...) being exposed, and MJ1 and MJ2 conducting a bet...one that MJ2 lost. So, I was "technically elevated" to MJ9, until the naming of a new, permanent member. I am personally aware of at least one other Illuminati member who remained as one of the 12, until their adjournment in 2005. Will I name him? No. That would bode poorly for me...and besides they're adjourned.
During the time from 1947-2005, the core group (MJ12, a subordinate group to the Committee of the Majority, from 1963-2002/3...but the central group from 1947-1963 and from 2002/3 to 2005...)...was run/operated primarily by elitist members of the Scottish Rite. Such, was one of the secret provisions established by Harry Truman...60 years under Scottish Rite...then another 60 under the York Rite...ending with what they called a "Conference of Sacred Decision" (I have no comment about what that may mean...as that would bode poorly for me as well...)...on "the 15th of Tishrei, 5828." The new group has a new name...it is not named Majestic. Do I know what it is named? Yes. Will I tell anyone? No. ...as that would bode poorly for me as well... "
Ref stargates and the 'new body':
"What I do know is that the devices are in the hands of people who know when NOT to use them. Further, they are being transferred to the hands of people who have every intention of living long lives and handing their service off to their own children. My service ended, in that knowledge. I suspect that may not give anyone a warm feeling inside, and it doesn't me either. The stargates are now in the hands of the new body, who will store them until such a time as the transition is completed and I understand until well after. Once done, I would expect they will hold long and hard conferences as to what to do with them. That's all I can really say. They certainly won't be handed to people who might just want something negative to befall humanity."
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Re: Dan Burisch / Will Uhouse Googletalk « Reply #5 on Jan 27, 2007, 3:32pm »
Thanks for posting that ganesh- Dan Burisch is certainly an intriguing individual. I had the chance to use the link you provided and spent time surfing the Eagles Disobey site. The more I read of/by him, the more interested I become.
Does he have a book out to your knowledge? If I'm not mistaken, I believe the site indicated that a video/movie is in the works.
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Re: Dan Burisch / Will Uhouse Googletalk « Reply #6 on Jan 27, 2007, 5:30pm »
hi Nick,
Dan & Marci have a dvd out called 'Tell the World' I haven't actually seen it yet myself...but I'm pretty much au fait with most of the info
I should start a thread and put more posts up like the ones above...try to keep 'em in one place
there's also the Project Camelot interview, which is worth a look... they've got 2 books in the works...an autobiography... and the Mars Timeline, which should be out later this year
Thank you! I have had a wonderful Birthday, so far...and more presents (the kind that don't come wrapped in paper) than I feel worthy to have received. One of them, which happened yesterday, really humbled me, and made me feel proud of the work I did, over the last 20 years.
Here is a secret, just between you and me ( ) about secret societies: you need not feel like a rag doll around them. That appends to them more power than they have. But why? Aren't they so powerful? Here is the pearl: they run nothing...they only influence. That influence can always be legally overturned by the power of the people. How? Numbers speaking in unison and of one accord.
Let's take an issue...say...DISCLOSURE. If you were to take a poll inside the so-called "ufo community," and ask a simple question: "Do you know what Disclosure is?" The vast majority (it has been done by the way...years ago...)...the vast majority will tell you "yes!" But...that's where the unison...that's where the speaking in one accord ends. (After I post this...give it a little while...and then if you dare ...watch other forums...and you will hear their self proclaimed experts telling you that what I have just said is wrong. Of course, they also believe that sending packages to Washington, DC, that are allowed to arrive, but are then covered with a truthful note of introduction before they are reviewed, is the way to go! ) Now...at once...just forget about what disclosure may be for a moment...and think just about that. They have people in their ranks...high ranking people...and lower ranking people...who will tell you that your single voice is worth nothing. Hell...some of them have so little self worth...they even tell you not to pray, or meditate about unity! Well...of course I disagree...but maybe we should redefine the question about that? Should a single voice...or the voice of a few who want something their own way...sway the course of the release of information which may impact everyone? The answer, coming from the Majestic well before they began preparations to adjourn was: no. The answer I came to, when I was given my last set of orders was also "no." The self righteous few...who proclaim this or that...define what disclosure is...whether they are from within "ufology," belong to religious cult, are part of a loose knit band of folks...or whatever...DON'T SPEAK FOR HUMANITY. Neither do I! So...people who come to me and say...we need to do this...or we need to do that...you should speak this way...or you should concentrate that way...with the release of information which may impact the course of history...are simply full of crap! They aren't humanity asking for information...they are just a self righteous few or less...maybe even one or two...demanding their way...their vision...be that which rules the discussion.
Those launching objections will say: who gave Majestic the right to rule the day...the right to rule the discussion? My answer: no one. Since when have they ruled anything? If Majestic, given its former power, was so determined to be the only voice, as the conspiracy pundits say, then why haven't the voices from the loud mouths who preach daily, and cause political cramps for Maj, been silenced? Was it my experience that Majestic had such a reach and force assets? Yes. Do you think they are afraid of you? How about afraid of me? Not at all. Majestic determined, long ago, that they (Majestic) didn't have the authority to speak for humanity.
The careful decisions on the release of information about the extraterrestrial presence were made well before my birth! How?
Well...now comes the tough part...telling you something without saying it outright...
Recently, I sat with Marcia and two friends and enjoyed an iced tea with them. It was the only nice moment in a very long and arduous day. During our conversation I mentioned that there were some questions that the "best of the best of the best" in ufology...the movers and shakers had either never thought to ask me...or decided to not ask...but in either case...some questions have never been asked of me. A nasty section in one treaty indicates something like (I would have to have it looked up to be precise) that representatives responsible for the information contained in the treaty are requested to answer truthfully, after they have made culturally accepted arrangements for testimony thereto (I suppose this means being subpoenaed and getting a lawyer), to questions posed by an authorized representative of a sovereign government conducting an investigation into the facts of that treaty. Wow! Meaning...if an authorized (I suppose this means "duly elected" for American purposes) Federal representative was to broker the authority to ask me questions about the "Tau" (T9) and "Omicron Phi" (OF9) treaties and Majestic...I would be responsible to answer them truthfully and without evasion. Another section indicated that responsible representatives, in the due course of providing authorized information to the public, in an informal manner, must judge, for the well being of those with whom they speak, how information is presented. How have I taken the second bit of information?
When ready, you'll ask.
Can I immediately point to areas that have not been covered...in 3 YEARS OF QUESTIONS that I've answered? Yes. I will pose a couple, here and now, that have not been asked of me...and given that I am posing them...I feel it is inappropriate (for 'well being') to provide an immediate answer to them. Do I know the answers? Yes. I'll just leave them with you...for now...to consider.
1. On T2, after the future Orion beings leave earth for the Moon, then Mars, then ultimately Orion...then much later after the future J-Rods go from here to Reticulum...
...who is left behind on Earth, does anyone stay? ...how does that impact the future of humanity on T2? ...could a variant of that occur, without T2 happening?
2. Who originally suggested and pressed for the treaty system? Was it Majestic, or someone else?
Those questions have been hanging there all this time...yet no one asked them? Because I have NO RIGHT to speak for humanity, and because I was almost required to show you examples...I can only conclude that the people weren't ready because they didn't ask. Please don't say you haven't had the time...because I have answered HUNDREDS OF QUESTIONS put to me. We have them all on record. (This is the cue for the petty princes and princesses to find a near question/answer. Hurry on!)
Many have made the leap in logic, showing once again that we feel ourselves (now) so all powerful and so very interesting that it is obviously we who pressed for (or required) a treaty system. True enough...we wanted it... ...once we found out the truth...but...is that really all there is to be said? Many have heard or read the contents of the speech given to my team, last May...where I said something akin to "we are now quarantined most assuredly as the Soviets were in October of 1962!" Yet...no substantial questions about the word "quarantine" so...fine...for well being... ...it sets, too.
Why? Why wouldn't this all come up from people who know exactly what disclosure is? Why, if they want Disclosure, why haven't they asked? Two reasons: (1) they have no idea what disclosure is, and (2) whatever it is they think disclosure is, it is defined by what they think it must be. In other words...if another's version arrives...it's not good enough for them. They have the spirit in them to want truth- but their own truths. This is why...and please don't miss the real pearl of wisdom here...this is why it has been done...is being done...and will be done...in a way which is sensitive on a cross-cultural...really a planetary...level.
Because the unilateral acceptance of authority has not been bequeathed to us from earlier incarnations of Majestic...
...(...whether it be the original 12, to the incarnations of the Committee of the Majority, or the later 12, or the final Maj 12...and even now with others...)...
...set into a sensitive system of dealing with the extraterrestrials of human lineage, whose information goes to the core of the destiny of humanity...
...NO INDIVIDUAL FROM OR INDIVIDUAL SOVEREIGN GOVERNMENT HAS THE RIGHT OR AUTHORITY TO SPEAK FOR ALL OTHER SOVEREIGN GOVERNMENTS ON EARTH...BY DIRECTING AN OFFICIAL RELEASE OF SUCH INFORMATION....WHICH IMPACTS THE DESTINY OF HUMANKIND.
In other words...ladies and gentlemen...if you are waiting for...say the U.S. Government to hold a Grand Disclosure Briefing...whereby all the little "conspiratorial freakies"...can point fingers, wrap the nooses, and light the torches...you are waiting for...
...people who (a) know they haven't the right to do it, and (b) care too much to act like the people who are demanding it.
Folks...disclosure is what you want it to be. The information is coming out...from numerous sources. What are you waiting for? Someone to make you the guest of honor at a party? We are all...already that...in the party of life.
To those claiming they have the right to declare this or that...that they want this or that information...look around you...where are the numbers and where is the unity of accord? Do you feel so all powerful, so smart, that you have the right to speak for everyone to demand something which everyone owns and hasn't been defined by the larger population? Don't yell to me...I just released the amount of truth I was told to release...and now I'm retired. I'm just one guy. I am sure you feel yourselve's more than just one average guy or lady, but I know what I am not.
How are you doing tonight...you 'speakers for everyone'?
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Re: Dan Burisch / Will Uhouse Googletalk « Reply #9 on Feb 3, 2007, 6:50pm »
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During the time from 1947-2005, the core group (MJ12, a subordinate group to the Committee of the Majority, from 1963-2002/3...but the central group from 1947-1963 and from 2002/3 to 2005...)...was run/operated primarily by elitist members of the Scottish Rite. Such, was one of the secret provisions established by Harry Truman...60 years under Scottish Rite...then another 60 under the York Rite...ending with what they called a "Conference of Sacred Decision" (I have no comment about what that may mean...as that would bode poorly for me as well...)...on "the 15th of Tishrei, 5828." The new group has a new name...it is not named Majestic. Do I know what it is named? Yes. Will I tell anyone? No. ...as that would bode poorly for me as well... "
Info on the Treaties really quick. I testified during my time where I was giving my debreifing to two sets of Treaties...one called the T9 and the other the OF9. These treaties have governed agreements between we and the human lineage extraterrestrials. The T9 treaties were signed: 1958, 1967, 1976, 1985, 1994, 2003 (...placed into abeyance until 2004; this is the one with which I was involved.), and one scheduled for 2012. The OF9 treaties were brokered in 1954, and signed 1955, 1964, 1973, 1982, 1991, 2000, and one set for 2009. The OF9 treaties (called Omicron Phi, for their Greek Letters) involve the Present+52,000 years Orion's and J-Rod's (Federals) and us. The T9 treaties (called Tau, for the Greek Letter) involve the parties to the OF9 treaties + the Present+45,000 years J-Rod's. During the 1954 meeting, to broker the OF treaties, the diplomatic channels were initially suggested to be made open with the P+45's.
The treaties govern our relationships with the P+52 Orion's and J-Rods, and the P+45 J-Rods. The treaty system is presently under great scrutiny, as to whether it need continue, once the transition (rise into the rift / galactic plane) is complete.
Dan __________________________________________________________
(and some more.....)
Yesterday at 10:52am, belimawr wrote:Why arent P+45 time line of the Orion's mentioned and or represented in the T9 and for that matter were are the p+45 Orion's, could this be due to the p+45 j-rod rebels. So this really brings red flags up for me and why haven't the 52+Orion's questioned this lack of representation of there 45 counterparts.
yes it seams that the treaty's have a very large hole ,,,not to mention the misappropriation of organic technologies,,,you made a wise decision about The GAnesh particles
Dan replies;
Wow! A thinker! Finally! That's one that hasn't been asked before! I know the answer as provided to me by Chi'el'ah!
The P+52 Orions engaged the P+45 J-Rods in discussion with the P+52 J-Rods. Prior to engagement, the P+45 J-Rods were unaware that the Orions had even survived. To them...it was an "alien" invasion when they were contacted by the P+52 Orions. Initially, hostilities broke out, initiated by the P+45 J-Rods against the P+52 Orions attempting to contact them. This is why the P+52 Orions engaged the P+52's J-Rods, to prove to the P+45's that we were all human. Once done, the P+45 J-Rods only reluctantly agreed to the engagement even with the P+52 J-Rods because after seeing evidence of their society, they felt that their own kind had been...ummm...if you will...watered down. Given the hostility between the P+45 J-Rods and the P+52 Orions, the P+52 Orions and P+52 J-Rods jointly decided to press the P+45 J-Rods not to contact the P+45 Orions...so as not to cause another paradox. They (again) reluctantly agreed. This was a source of tension as diplomatic issues bantered back and forth within the P+45 culture included proponents for the eradication of the pre-P+52 Orions. Disputes have occurred...(or depending on how you view the paradox....could occur. ) The P+52 J-Rods have enforced that quarantine against the P+45 J-Rods.
Great thinking! Bingo! You asked the right question! ...and to think...this is one of your first questions to me. There have been individual people who have repeatedly asked me...it seems 500 like times..."Uhhh...what's the Illuminati???"
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Re: Dan Burisch / Will Uhouse Googletalk « Reply #11 on Feb 5, 2007, 4:06pm »
Thank you for providing some brief, direct commentary into the complexities of proto-races, time paradoxes and why there is a conflict of interest in all that is transpiring within the many dimensional time frames.
It is very humbling for 2007 earth humanity as we know it, to recognize that our world is merely an arena or theatre for future generations of evolved humanity to work out its dillemmas.
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Clearly, we will have to take ownership of the catastrophic outcomes we ourselves have created.
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Re: Dan Burisch / Will Uhouse Googletalk « Reply #12 on Feb 12, 2007, 3:18am »
another short post from yesterday re: McConnell
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Thank you, Rob. I have the entire text, it on both Senate and cspan footage, and the audio on a separate track! ...not that I was interested. I even have a glossy on the way...
The real good stuff happened in the sealed session. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Note to the public:
I have had an email about the J-Rods, and an interesting thing came up in it...
We discussed their names...
I explained to the person writing that they DON'T call themselves...Zetas or Zetans...they designate by number, number location, and social group number. Their Planet is also designated by a number...and NO it isn't called Serpo! That's a reptile park in the netherlands. (Don't believe me? http://www.serpo.nl/rep_eng.htm )...
They call their home world number and sound desigator, as established by the Sigma Unit: 4-18-20. Meaning-
It is an important goal of the "SERPO" reptile park to educate people. By allowing people to watch the animals from close-up and providing an informative program we hope to remove many a preconceived opinions.