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Re: Source Reveals Secret UFO Meeting at U.N. « Reply #2730 on Jun 6, 2008, 3:21pm »
Found this old (2005) review article on the UN and catering. It has a telephone number (possibly out of date ) if anyone is interested in making a call to them to see who supplies/prepares buffet lunches to the meetings and how they account for them.
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Re: Source Reveals Secret UFO Meeting at U.N. « Reply #2732 on Jun 6, 2008, 4:51pm »
I posted the following as a personal reply to Clay but thought it might be useful for open discussion purposes. Folks well know I believe this UN thread is exceptional because it is with a real insider who has shown his credentials to several researchers. This is extremely rare.
I am afraid that the other insider threads at OM by anonymous sources are mostly just disinformation and game-playing and should not be confused with this one. This thread is precious and I believe we all must be vigilant to keep the posting here high quality so as not to blow a important opportunity to dialog with real insiders with real names.
I cannot overstress the importance of what Source A is doing. He and his little kingdom are really threating the very existance of many other little kindoms or fifedoms by pushing for disclosure. Its very tricky buisness and he and his kindom need our help and intelligence and not our foolishness and uninformed stupidity, chit chat and social dialog. There are plenty of other threads for that. Lets keep this a clean channel with a tight rein on our thoughts and postings.
To Clay: I have been away from the net a few days to help take care of a contactee friend of mine so I am just getting back with you now. I heard from another contactee that he is concerned with a meltdown in the CIA's ET programs and that fighting could soon erupt. This between the CIA trying to keep control of the situation against folks like Source A who are moving in on CIA turf.
Have you heard anything about this sort of thing from Source A?
Glad to read your last postings. We in the civilian sector have problems understanding how things work for the insiders and your postings help shed light on that.
I seems to be like there are these little kingdoms in the intelligence community, a kind of closed super secret feudal society. This is hard for some to understand in open society. You might want to use this idea of small feudal kingdoms and conflicts between them to help explain the situation source A is in. Source A is able to do what he does and stay alive because he understands his feudal environment. He has his protectors in his own kindom who are in conflict with other kindoms of similar nature.
Maybe I will just post this to the UN thread for further open discussion.
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Re: Source Reveals Secret UFO Meeting at U.N. « Reply #2733 on Jun 6, 2008, 5:01pm »
Sgt. Clifford Stone has made a series of posts on ATS. Their moderators have assured the readership that these posts are indeed genuine. So far, two of Mr. Stone's posts are very pertinent to this discussion:
"The cover-up is contained by classifying the real information at a top secret level and compartmenting the information under SCI. This way it is limited to but a few. Also, this type of information is never made available to the Office of Security Oversight as it is required by law." http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread359885/pg12#pid4432159
"There exist a great desire among several of the insiders for this information to get out. However, the big question is how to do this in a responsible manor." .. .. "The powers that be do not care what you say as we are condition not to believe in alien (from space) visitors. They are very concerned as to what you can prove."
I posted the following as a personal reply to Clay but thought it might be useful for open discussion purposes. Folks well know I believe this UN thread is exceptional because it is with a real insider who has shown his credentials to several researchers. This is extremely rare.
I am afraid that the other insider threads at OM by anonymous sources are mostly just disinformation and game-playing and should not be confused with this one. This thread is precious and I believe we all must be vigilant to keep the posting here high quality so as not to blow a important opportunity to dialog with real insiders with real names.
I cannot overstress the importance of what Source A is doing. He and his little kingdom are really threating the very existance of many other little kindoms or fifedoms by pushing for disclosure. Its very tricky buisness and he and his kindom need our help and intelligence and not our foolishness and uninformed stupidity, chit chat and social dialog. There are plenty of other threads for that. Lets keep this a clean channel with a tight rein on our thoughts and postings.
To Clay: I have been away from the net a few days to help take care of a contactee friend of mine so I am just getting back with you now. I heard from another contactee that he is concerned with a meltdown in the CIA's ET programs and that fighting could soon erupt. This between the CIA trying to keep control of the situation against folks like Source A who are moving in on CIA turf.
Have you heard anything about this sort of thing from Source A?
Glad to read your last postings. We in the civilian sector have problems understanding how things work for the insiders and your postings help shed light on that.
I seems to be like there are these little kingdoms in the intelligence community, a kind of closed super secret feudal society. This is hard for some to understand in open society. You might want to use this idea of small feudal kingdoms and conflicts between them to help explain the situation source A is in. Source A is able to do what he does and stay alive because he understands his feudal environment. He has his protectors in his own kindom who are in conflict with other kindoms of similar nature.
Maybe I will just post this to the UN thread for further open discussion.
Ed
Hey Ed,
You are on the right track. We do not know how the CIA is involved with any detail though. Source A will not go there on this. There's enough heat on him without prodding the CIA is how we read it. What we do know is that elements of the Air Force and elements of the Navy are in a battle over the projects and ET related venues. Now this is not a Department of Navy or Department of Air Force program per se. I know you understand this Ed. This is for OMF's edification. Also, there are more "groups" both pro-disclosure and anti-disclosure at work too. You are 100% accurate that it is feudal in nature. Who these are we cannot say and will not say for the sake of Source A's safety.
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Re: Source Reveals Secret UFO Meeting at U.N. « Reply #2739 on Jun 7, 2008, 1:35am »
zixibit,
Thanks for that link. We all tend to forget what it is like to put yourself out there for the world to see. Kinda like jumping outta bed, running down to the Rusty Pelican, ordering a drink at the bar, then asking everyone what they are all looking at? Just then you realize that you forgot to get dressed. Okay so I was in a hurry...what's the big deal. Being a Vietnam Vet I can certainly relate. I don't talk about my experiences with anyone except the remaining members of my outfit. To this day there are things that happened over there that we as a unit never discuss. So it must be for people like Sgt. Stone and Source A. Some questions just cannot be answered and others must be answered carefully so as to not put your buddies and families in an uncomfortable position. I do not care what anyone thinks or cares about me as a person, but I do care tremendously about those I have served with and my family. Given that, I understand completely what a whistle blower goes through. Patience is something I learned returning home from war to boos and spittle. Understanding is something that I learned from coping with what I could not change. In combat we carried what was called a 'Blood Chit' it read, "I am a citizen of the United States of America. I do not speak your language. Misfortune forces me to seek your assistance in obtaining food, shelter, and protection. Please take me to someone who will provide for my safety and see that I am returned to my people. My government will reward you." Perhaps we should offer such a chit to Source A, of course a few words will need to be changed but hell ...... "Good night Chesty, wherever you are.....!
I know this has nothing to do with this discussion sorry, but can I get your take on Alex Collier,
because John Lear and George Green believe Billy Meier's case to be true and Billy basically say's Alex make's his stuff up,
because he spoke with AC and told him some stuff and AC put his own stuff in, and that's what he relay's to people.
Thank's. Eddie
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Since your question is largely off topic, I suggest you visit the following for some answers: http://galacticdiplomacy.com/Contactees-Collier-Robinson.htm . For the record, my view is that Alex Collier is a genuine contactee, and you should contact Wendelle Stevens for a more impartial opinion.
There is one aspect of Collier's case that is relevant to the UN discussions which I offer solely as an interesting set of synchronicities vis a vis current investigations. I can't back this up other than notes I took and some meetings with colleagues back in late 2007, but it's an interesting conversation that occurred well before Source A's public emergence.
Back in June 07, I was talking with Alex about upcoming events according to his more recent communications with extraterrestrials from Andromeda. He told me back then that the UN was "being prodded to take on a more significant role" on extraterrestrial issues. He spoke about UN meetings that would be taking place. I was encouraged to get involved in their discussions about ET life so a civilian perspective would be included. This was all eight months before Source A's revelation and was quite puzzling at the time since I had no interest in contacting the UN. Also, I didn't think the UN was much of a player at all on ET affairs, as evidenced by the moribund 1978 UNGA Decisiion 33/426, and the way in which the UN is structured to serve Security Council member interests. Basically, if major UN players (US, UK, Russia, etc.) don't want something to happen, then nothing of note does happen.
Nevertheless, I subsequently convened a meeting at the X-Conference in September 2007 with a number of advisors associated with the Exopolitics Institute including Alfred Webre, Victor Viggiani, Poala Harris, and others about doing a series of events at the UN to get them more involved on the ET issues. Those early meetings continued by phone and a small group of us eventually contacted retired U.S. Ambassador John McDonald from the Institute for Multitrack Diplomacy who has joined us in a Citizen Diplomacy initiative to get the UN to implement UNGA 33/426. There was an announcement of our joint initiative at the April 2008 X-Conference, see: http://exopoliticsinstitute.org/PA-UN-Civil-Society-Initiative.htm
So by the time Source A came forward with his revelations on the UN on Feb 12, we had already been planning a number of events to get the UN involved on the ET issue, so it all appeared to be very synchronistic.
I took notes of my June 2, 2007 discussion with Alex concerning a range of issues including upcoming UN discussions on ET life. The fact that others can testify that a group of us began talking about getting the UN involved back in Sept 07 is circumstantial evidence that the conversation with Alex Collier did take place a few months earlier and that I was acting on advice concerning the UN and future meetings.
So in sum, Alex Collier was passing on advance info about the UN getting involved in ET affairs and asking me to get involved well before Source A's public emergence. For those not aware, I do have a background in international diplomacy involving the UN through my work on East Timor so it's not hard to understand why I was advised to get involved, see: http://www.usip.org/pubs/peaceworks/smock20/chap1_20.html
For those skeptical of contactee or Collier's data, I offer the above merely as an interesting set of synchronicities that can be corroborated by others. For those more inclined to accept the legitimacy of contactee or Collier's data in relation to the UN meetings, I think the synchronicities speak for themselves. Ethical ET civilizations are monitoring global events including UN discussions, and passing on important information to those inclined to accept and act on such information.
Re: Source Reveals Secret UFO Meeting at U.N. « Reply #2742 on Jun 7, 2008, 6:48am »
ed k,
Quote:
I posted the following as a personal reply to Clay but thought it might be useful for open discussion purposes. Folks well know I believe this UN thread is exceptional because it is with a real insider who has shown his credentials to several researchers. This is extremely rare.
This is not rare.
Quote:
I am afraid that the other insider threads at OM by anonymous sources are mostly just disinformation and game-playing and should not be confused with this one. This thread is precious and I believe we all must be vigilant to keep the posting here high quality so as not to blow a important opportunity to dialog with real insiders with real names.
[...] However, now that the cat is out of the bag, and he is being noticed (we can now presume this by his medical chart) by those who might feel a little threaten by the "obscure" UFO/ET blogs, he must now move. And, he has been moving ever since. We have gleened from our source that he is indeed privy to a "support" team that keeps him abreast of when things get hot. When this happens, he lays low and moves some more. To knock off our source creates problems within the command structure who are also privy to the secrets. [...]
Except when it's Fleet Week, or when he is assigned Temporary duty, right? **************************** After all, he is disclosing things that we have never heard before, and life threatening things too. For instance, the Navy is on the good team, and there exists shape shifting, mental giants- in our midsts. What's next?
it's active vs inactive duty....BIG difference. Usually active duty end up under the feet of MIB in short order. This therefore has been remarkably successful to be this long running. The moment the info narrows enough to possibly include him those creeps will be all over him before you can do more than say "ooooo terrific we got it finally!" there is no joking about the neutralization factor here folks. Remember a powerful part of the ptb is NOT pro-disclosue because you or anyone else has not made the case as to how such would benefit them or prevent them from being the victims of lynch mob mentality. You haven't built the infrastructure necessary for this to go smoothly without funerals.
For one thing I haven't seen anyone put real obvious effort into the two most noticible items that Source A has stressed...
1. Amnesty for whistleblowers & insiders - that coming forward is no longer a form of suicide.
2. Follow the money - you are looking for proof of meetings, well Source A said or at least implied that there is something to be found under "BUDGET LINE ITEMS"
Continue un-united, sit and spin.
Continue without meeting the needs for those in the 'know' and watch the bugs splat on the wind shield in futility.
If you like being ignorant then continue talking instead of walking the walk.
Cyrellys
There were 3 important things discussed -supposedly- and not just two. Why leave out the one that was held to be the BIGGEST issue?
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Okay so I was in a hurry...what's the big deal. Being a Vietnam Vet I can certainly relate. I don't talk about my experiences with anyone except the remaining members of my outfit. To this day there are things that happened over there that we as a unit never discuss. So it must be for people like Sgt. Stone and Source A. Some questions just cannot be answered and others must be answered carefully so as to not put your buddies and families in an uncomfortable position. I do not care what anyone thinks or cares about me as a person, but I do care tremendously about those I have served with and my family. Given that, I understand completely what a whistle blower goes through. Patience is something I learned returning home from war to boos and spittle. Understanding is something that I learned from coping with what I could not change. In combat we carried what was called a 'Blood Chit' it read, "I am a citizen of the United States of America. I do not speak your language. Misfortune forces me to seek your assistance in obtaining food, shelter, and protection. Please take me to someone who will provide for my safety and see that I am returned to my people. My government will reward you." Perhaps we should offer such a chit to Source A, of course a few words will need to be changed but hell ...... 
"Good night Chesty, wherever you are.....! 
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