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« Thread Started on Oct 16, 2008, 8:35pm »

This thread is intended for the discussion of the newly released 'Alternate SOM 1-01' document which is now available exclusively on our home page:

http://openmindsforum.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=69&Itemid=1

(With special thanks to "Source A" and Temporal )
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« Reply #1 on Oct 16, 2008, 8:49pm »

A special thanks goes out to Clay and Shawn Pickering, Dr. Bob Woods and our very own Ufonaut for their diligent and tireless work in pulling all of this information together.

They have all collectively put in countless hours in their efforts to bring this forth to the public - and we are fortunate here at OM to be the recipients of this document!

Kudos to all involved! ;)
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« Reply #2 on Oct 16, 2008, 11:17pm »

Oops,

When I forwarded the SOM1-01 document, I thought I pulled MY COPY of the Eisenhower Briefing document. Obviously, one page was left in accidently. When I first got the SOM1-01 document, I would include the Briefing document to those who needed the background to the Majestic Papers. I double checked with our source, however, and asked him what he copied and gave to me. He told me that it was only the SOM1-01. Sorry for the confusion. I believe I sent the briefing document to Dr. Wood too, forgetting to pull it.
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« Reply #3 on Oct 17, 2008, 2:03am »

I'd like to personally thank all those involved with this.. Keep up the good work.
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« Reply #4 on Oct 17, 2008, 4:29am »

Many thanks to Clay and Shawn & Source A and everyone else for getting the SOM1-01 out to OMF for everyone to see...good job guys!
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« Reply #5 on Oct 17, 2008, 7:23am »

Really well done... kudos to everyone involved in making this happen. It's going to take some time to mull this over, but it will be worth the effort. Mucho thanko!!
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« Reply #6 on Oct 17, 2008, 8:08am »


Oct 16, 2008, 8:49pm, Ivo wrote:
A special thanks goes out to Clay and Shawn Pickering, Dr. Bob Woods and our very own Ufonaut for their diligent and tireless work in pulling all of this information together.

They have all collectively put in countless hours in their efforts to bring this forth to the public - and we are fortunate here at OM to be the recipients of this document!

Kudos to all involved! ;)


Shawn and I would like to thank Ufonaut & IVO5000 for their hardwork. We would also like to thank all you at OMF for being patient and understanding with this late release. We had to sit on it for many reasons. Now, let's see where this takes us?; hopefully, a little further down the road with disclosure and contact.
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« Reply #7 on Oct 17, 2008, 10:20am »

Good start however in terms of content its not much new.... still ill wait for more progress on new material
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« Reply #8 on Oct 17, 2008, 11:01am »

Kudos!
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« Reply #9 on Oct 17, 2008, 12:38pm »


Oct 17, 2008, 10:20am, magooollo wrote:
Good start however in terms of content its not much new.... still ill wait for more progress on new material


Agreed. Also, it was my understanding that there would be new information with this verison of the manual as stated by Mr. Morningstar on the Kevin Smith show (4.24.08). He commented that this version of the SOM contained, "many more pages" after his review of the SOM at a conference on 6.24.07 when he met Clay & Shawn. Is this true and will there be a further release?

Edited for grammar - sorry posted this quickly while at work
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Oct 17, 2008, 10:20am, magooollo wrote:
Good start however in terms of content its not much new.... still ill wait for more progress on new material


I'm convinced the SOM is disinfo. Evidencd it really came from a government source is perfectly consistent with that.
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« Reply #11 on Oct 17, 2008, 1:50pm »

I know and appreciate all the efforts that went into providing this release. And think Lee did a great job of presenting it.
Thank you all.

However, I'm having some serious reservations concerning Source A's testimony of events that lead up to him photocopying the docs.

I'll sit in the back seat for a bit, and wait for others to have a chance to read it through.


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« Reply #12 on Oct 17, 2008, 2:02pm »

I rarely post here, but read often. But I must call total BS on Source -A's story about the missle retrieval. I was in Cheyenne Mountain for almost all of the 1980's and believe me, we tracked everything and knew exactly where it was going. We would never in a million years send a Lt. and two marines to retrieve anything. There are special teams sent in to do this stuff and 90% of the time, it is USAF. His story has zero credibility with me. If something were to go off course and land in Area-51, there would be no issue with retrieveing it.
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« Reply #13 on Oct 17, 2008, 2:34pm »

The two lone officers sent into the desert has always bothered me as well. It reminded me of a Bible story when I read it the first time.

That's probably not a sincere note on which to being to offer my thanks for the release of the document. I do so nonetheless, and hope dudes don't think I'm an a**hole. But I probably am...

Thank you Temporal. Now you don't have to listen to me mention it on every page.



Thank you.




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Oct 17, 2008, 2:02pm, exusafintel wrote:
I rarely post here, but read often. But I must call total BS on Source -A's story about the missle retrieval. I was in Cheyenne Mountain for almost all of the 1980's and believe me, we tracked everything and knew exactly where it was going. We would never in a million years send a Lt. and two marines to retrieve anything. There are special teams sent in to do this stuff and 90% of the time, it is USAF. His story has zero credibility with me. If something were to go off course and land in Area-51, there would be no issue with retrieveing it.


Did I say that our source found the missile in Area-51. No. He surmised that he was somewhere within the Tonopah test area. This is the area that borders the western edge of the whole Nellis AFB site. Also, try getting a clearance from one base to another to retrieve something. Especially a "Black Base." Maybe, the one base with the errant missile did not want the other base to know? Maybe, the base in charge of the missile does not want any other base to retrieve the missile and see what possibly might be an undisclosed technology? Maybe, our source's base was hoping to slip in (without our guy and the two marines knowing where they were going) and out before anyone knew? Maybe, our source's base did not know that the missile went into another classified area? I know, a lot of maybes. However, I do know that compartmentalization is standard operating procedure when dealing with the services. Moreover, the Area 51 facility has more than one service operating there.

If you guys at NORAD tracked everything and knew where it is going, then please tell us how and where UFOs fit in. I assume you knew where they were going? Not to digress, please then tell us how NORAD knew where the planes were going on 9/11? Boy! Did we ever need those special teams that day. Or, are we dealing with the 10%?
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